Was mother of Columbine killer partly responsible for massacre?

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Was mother of Columbine killer partly responsible for massacre?

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    No. Teenagers can be secretive and she didn't know what he was planning .
    31%
  • 60317
    Yes. She should have seen the warning signs and gotten him help.
    24%
  • 60318
    I'm not sure. Who could predict that tragedy?
    45%

VoteTotal Votes: 415

Susan Klebold, the mother of Columbine shooter Dylan Klebold, is breaking her silence in a magazine article. "The fact that I never saw tragedy coming is still almost inconceivable to me," she writes.

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31.3%
No. Teenagers can be secretive and she didn't know what he was planning .
130 votes
23.9%
Yes. She should have seen the warning signs and gotten him help.
99 votes
44.8%
I'm not sure. Who could predict that tragedy?
186 votes
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I'm not sure. Who could predict that tragedy?

While as parents we cannot predict all the actions, of our children, I think we SHOULD be able to sense when something is troubling them.

     - 9:47 am EDT on Mon Oct 12, 2009
    No. Teenagers can be secretive and she didn't know what he was planning .

    I was SUPER secretive as a teenager and my parents were saints! He made his decisions regardless of how well she did as a mother.

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     - 9:52 am EDT on Mon Oct 12, 2009
    I'm not sure. Who could predict that tragedy?

    You can make a lot of harsh judgements, but no one really knows until they've been in one's shoes.

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     - 11:10 am EDT on Mon Oct 12, 2009
    No. Teenagers can be secretive and she didn't know what he was planning .

    Susan, forgive yourself.

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     - 11:45 am EDT on Mon Oct 12, 2009
    I'm not sure. Who could predict that tragedy?

    No one wants to think their child could do such a thing. Unfortunately, they can. "Invading their privacy" is not such a bad thing.

       - 11:49 am EDT on Mon Oct 12, 2009
      Yes. She should have seen the warning signs and gotten him help.

      Where was she when the videos of him holding guns were made?

         - 12:53 pm EDT on Mon Oct 12, 2009
        Yes. She should have seen the warning signs and gotten him help.

        I absolutely believe that parents should be accountable for the actions of their minor. How could she not know!?

           - Renise
           - 1:43 pm EDT on Mon Oct 12, 2009
          I'm not sure. Who could predict that tragedy?

          Everyone is responsible for their own actions. Regardless of the suspicions, no one would ever think your child could be filled with hate.

             - 2:25 pm EDT on Mon Oct 12, 2009
            I'm not sure. Who could predict that tragedy?

            On the fence bc as a parent of two young girls it is hard for me to relate to this mothers plight. Gender?Age? Did she work or SAHM

               - 3:17 pm EDT on Mon Oct 12, 2009
              Yes. She should have seen the warning signs and gotten him help.

              Another example of absentee motherhood.

                 - 4:48 pm EDT on Mon Oct 12, 2009
                I'm not sure. Who could predict that tragedy?

                As a mom of a teen who happened to have another life that I was unaware of - I still wonder how she couldn't know her son was so disturbed,

                   - 10:20 pm EDT on Mon Oct 12, 2009
                  No. Teenagers can be secretive and she didn't know what he was planning .

                  Unless she is a mental health specialist, how could she have definately known what was going on with him?

                     - tac210
                     - 1:45 pm EDT on Tue Oct 13, 2009
                    Yes. She should have seen the warning signs and gotten him help.

                    I'm sorry, but when your child can amass a stockpile of weapons and ammunition without you noticing, you should be more involved.

                       - 5:04 pm EDT on Tue Oct 13, 2009
                      No. Teenagers can be secretive and she didn't know what he was planning .

                      According to the experts we can't discipline them in our own homes, but when they do something wrong we must take the blame. No Way!

                         - 9:43 pm EDT on Tue Oct 13, 2009
                        I'm not sure. Who could predict that tragedy?

                        Normally I'd say h*ll yes she should have known. But honestly have you ever dealt with a teen? It's almost impossible to police a teen.

                           - Leena
                           - 11:54 pm EDT on Tue Oct 13, 2009
                          No. Teenagers can be secretive and she didn't know what he was planning .

                          No. Teens are confidently secretive. You can 'sense' but not know or find evidence. Dylan's mother is actually a victim of the tragedy too

                             - 5:51 pm EDT on Wed Oct 14, 2009
                            I'm not sure. Who could predict that tragedy?

                            Did the boy get enough just plain listening? My heart goes out to all involved.

                               - 8:16 am EDT on Fri Oct 23, 2009
                              No. Teenagers can be secretive and she didn't know what he was planning .

                              No! The media needs to quit pointing fingers. Teenagers are different people when with their peers! She has suffered enuff!

                                 - 8:44 am EDT on Fri Oct 23, 2009

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                                In further comment of this question, I think that there are always warning signs. Maybe she as a mother could have been more proactive in talking with him and maybe getting him some help. But denial is a powerful drug and she may have just thought, "This is a phase. He will grow out of it." I do not blame her for his actions and choices, but I think that she could have been more proactive in his life. I was a mischievious teenager and my parents did everything right. Sometimes no matter what you do, people will make their own decisions whether they be right or wrong.

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                                Reply#1 - Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:56 AM EDT

                                While it is hard to say the mother alone is responsible she is responsible for knowing where her child is, even when they are teenagers, who their friends are and CERTAINLY making sure they do not have access to weapons!!!

                                  Reply#2 - Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:59 AM EDT

                                  I have to wonder, what would Susan's critics have done differently? How can they be so sure they would have recognized any symptoms? How many of you can say for certain that you know what your child or grandchild is doing at any given moment?

                                  How I wish she could have peace and rest from this terrible tragedy. Even more how I wish there were more compassion for the Klybo and Harris families.

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                                  Reply#3 - Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:55 AM EDT

                                  I couldn't agree with you more. Easy to Monday morning quarterback especially if your children are grown or you don't have any.

                                  No body knows what they will do until faced with it.

                                    #3.1 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:43 PM EDT
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                                    Reply#4 - Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:55 PM EDT

                                    Bitter about something?

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                                    #4.1 - Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:26 PM EDT

                                    sheesh! no kidding!!

                                      #4.2 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:33 PM EDT

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                                        #4.3 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:06 PM EDT

                                        I think we are past that and you haven't caught up yet.

                                          #4.4 - Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:58 AM EDT
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                                          I feel like we can only raise our kids the best that we can and hope that we are doing a good enough job. Any child that attends a public school is not only influenced by parents growing up. There are teachers, peers, counselors, principals among others. Parents can not be with their children every minute of the day but they can stay involved and ask questions to get to know what goes on with the child on a daily basis.

                                            Reply#5 - Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:32 PM EDT

                                            its blind weak parenting rules like the ones above that create "problem" kids...its ALWAYS the parents job to be the FINAL rule of law, and also check up on all the "other" influences you claim have a hand in raising your kids...inthe end...YOU AND OLY YOU are the final responsible party.

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                                            #5.1 - Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:00 AM EDT
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                                            We can all sit back and judge or we can try to figure out what she missed or how she missed it. This way none of us will hopefully end up in her shoes one day - There but for the grace of God go I.

                                              Reply#6 - Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:30 PM EDT

                                              Where was his father in all this? During adolescence boys draw away from their mother (close as they may still in some ways be) to discover their identity as men. They will find role models from the men in their environment, be it their father,and/or an other supportive adult male or their male friend or friends. Even the best Mom can't be Dad as well.

                                                Reply#7 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:28 PM EDT

                                                where was dad in all of this? he too should bear half the blame.

                                                  Reply#8 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:39 PM EDT

                                                  I was immediately ready to condemn the parents of both boys. But teenagers will always find a way to do something if they really want to do it. I believe his parents tried to help him with his depression but he did not seem to want the help. This is just an unforgettable tragedy where we can probably find nobody to blame, or everybody, depending on how you look at the roles of many people, not just the parents. The book Columbine really gave a lot of information that most of us probably never knew.

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                                                  Reply#9 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:31 PM EDT

                                                  Why would someone blame her for what her son did. People tend to forget they were once teenagers and hid nearly everything they didn't want their parents to know from them, because you knew they would not approve. Susan is hurting enough and for some of you to blame her and say she should have known, you are an idiot. Susan please forgive yourself, it wasn;t your fault, move on and ignore the idiots.

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                                                  Reply#10 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:06 PM EDT

                                                  Do you think you could have hidden all this from your parents?

                                                    #10.1 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:15 PM EDT

                                                    Heck yes I could have hidden it from my parents as a teen and my parents were GOOD and all in my business like parents should be. But even with wonderful involved parents...when I think of the stuff my friends/siblings etc. did as teens and got away with? Wow.

                                                    The fact is most teens are the perfect flawed combination of brilliant yet stupid yet crafty yet innocent yet...yada yada. It's scary.

                                                    And anyone that has a teen or has dealt with one a lot knows how crazy hard it is to truly monitor them 24/7 yet still realize they're growing into adulthood and finding the balance to walk the line between respecting them and policing them.

                                                    Were there warning signs for the Ms. Klebold? Maybe. But how many of us don't listen to an instinct or intuition about another person? Or hope it's a phase? Or just think you're being paranoid? Hindsight is easy after the fact.

                                                    I feel bad for her and everyone involved.

                                                      #10.2 - Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:09 AM EDT
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                                                      Look, no one will agree 100% with the way they were raised, but I have to admit that my parents did a decent job with me. Like any other teenager I bent the rules when I could, and broke some when I thought I could get away with it. Testing boundaries is normal. But my parents usually had a pretty good idea of how my life was going, and they were there every day, and could tell when I was feeling bad or angry about something and would try to talk to me about it.

                                                      But when a parent is absent from their child's life long enough for hatred to fester, plans to be made, guns and ammunition stockpiled and loaded, and a massacre to be carried out I have to ask. Just where you while all this was going on? I can not imagine that any parent who made an honest to God attempt to be an integral part of their child's life would miss the clues that must have been there.

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                                                      Reply#11 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:12 PM EDT

                                                      agree

                                                        #11.1 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:08 PM EDT
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                                                        It seems funny to me that everyone keeps stressing that this was a "cubscout tool". As a mom of 2 cubscouts I can tell you the cubscouts cant even earn their wittling chip to carry a knife until they are in the 3rd grade and then they are only allowed to carry them at camp. A 6 year old cubscout would never be allowed to carry a knife. It obvious the adults in this situation have failed the child and they should be the ones punished not the child. Children only know what they are taught. With this boy breaking a school and a cubscout rule, he has obviously been failed by numerous people.

                                                          Reply#12 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:41 PM EDT

                                                          sorry the site posted my reply on the wrong chat.

                                                            Reply#13 - Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:45 PM EDT

                                                            I could NEVER have had a stockpile of weapons..my mom was the enforser...I was no angel...drugs...drink a bit...theres sneeky....and theres ridiculous, ANY mom that doesnt see parts or clues or items tied to the massacre....is a CLUELESS ABSENTEE MOTHER and deserves to share the blame....if you choose to have intercourse, get preg. and keep kid....you are bound for LIFE to that child, and while he/she is young, its your duty to be vigilant to raise and instill MORAL values...of at least life and death, and how to treat others... closing your eyes to developmental problems with your kid, may be easier and make you look like a good parent with no problems...BUT neglect can bring on a NIGHTMARE down the road...as a kid...or as an adult...either way....its the parents fault...its your duty...if you cant take on a full time parenting job where you never give up....DONT HAVE KIDS!!!! If my kid was killed by hers...id call her and mail her letters reminding her how bad of a mom she was...and because of her my kids dead....every day of every year.... all you BAD parents out there...the ones who spent more time on their "myspace" "facebook" pages than they do with their own kids...Im talking to you!!! Clean your houses...look through stuff...ITS YOUR DUTY...TO ME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO THE TOWN. Kids do not have "rights" till they are on their own...thats what we were told...I had no rights while under their roof and every square foot of the house including my room...was theirs...and they owned it and could go through it. And today... Im glad they were tuff...back then...not so much....but the time to "befriend" your kids...isnt till they are ALSO adults, and you can have an adult friendship then....as a teen, its far from the time.

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                                                            Reply#14 - Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:52 AM EDT

                                                            Who could predict that the incident would happen? Even the parents of the two boys had never foreseen that it would happen. A lot of people have been waiting for something like the Susan Klebold essay. It has been getting good response from the readers, particularly parents. The Susan Klebold essay will run in O Magazine, and though this is the first statement of any kind that she's made about the incident, other than in court, which is sealed, she won't be going on Oprah's TV show, or making any other appearances or statements. With that little follow up on the Susan Klebold essay it looks like she isn't doing this because she needs money.

                                                              Reply#16 - Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:08 AM EDT

                                                              Being a parent myself and knowing how I was as a teen, I know my parents didn't know everything I did. No, you can't keep your eye on them 24-7, but you do the best you can. This was a horrible thing that happened. I know all these years later it still brings up terrible memories for everyone, but the parents can't be held responsible for the child's behavior in this case. They would have found a way to do something like this no matter what anyone said or did in my opinion. They wanted it that bad. That's just the way it was folks! Like it or not.

                                                                Reply#17 - Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:35 AM EDT
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