Really? And how many people do you know that have twins and quads and just LOVE staying home with them 24/7 without any help or relief? I absolutely LOVED my children but I needed a break from them every once and a while. I see wonderful parents that have trouble raising twins...I can't imagine what it's like raising twins and quads!! It's easy to judge when you aren't walking in someone else shoes!!

What ever you have, their yours to take care of. Its not like he hasn't had a nanny,babysitter, and crew to help him out. He just wants to be a kid and play.

Yes, it's a privilege if you can afford to stay at home. We have a 3 yr old boy and 17 month old twin girls (big shock). I VALUE my kids and I enjoy it, but it is hard. It can get stressful at times. I worked part time to work around my husbands schedule and now I'm going back full time. It's really only my husband and I so we really don't get any breaks or even really spend quality time together. We know it will eventually get easier and I wouldn't trade my life for anything.

Really? And how many people do you know that have twins and quads and just LOVE staying home with them 24/7 without any help or relief?

Ok, first, show me ONE time she was home with them 24/7 without help or relief? She HASN'T!!

Kate Gosselin had wonderful twins and yet that just wasn't enough for her and had to have fertility drugs, which we all know can produce multiples, and ended up with 6 more. HER CHOICE!!

Any parent gets stressed....I understand that. As a stay-at-hom Mom, I enjoy the time I can get away. But if I had nannies and help and millions of dollars, I really wouldn't be on tv whinning like her!!

It has been said that they had nannies helping them so they could have a break from the kids. As a single mom I love my daughter to no end, but there are times I need a break and it is good for noth of us. I don't date (because I don't want to) I sometimes ask my mom to watch her at times when I need an hour or two of me time. Other then that I am with her everyday and night and we do things together at home and away from home. I'm a school bus driver. Even if I was rich I would be with my daughter everyday and every night. She spoils me LOL!

Hey Denise. sounds like it's time for you to see a therapist to find out why you are projecting your thoughts & feelings onto Kate.

DiegoKate - that's not very nice. Denise is just sharing her opinion and I happen to think that she might be making a valid observation.

Jon violates a court order & steals the money needed & earmarked to pay the bills. He's bashing her & blaming her for the problems in their marriage, as though he had nothing to do with the creation of their relationship. He told the rabbi that he expected Kate to handle all the daily chores. How does this add up to the idea that Kate doesn't like her kids? There is no logical connection. The very idea that Kate just wanted to plop her kids in a crib or behind a gate & that she would not like them as they grew up is not an idea that either Kate or Jon have expressed at any point in any interviews or on the show. So, Denise's statement is not an "observation" because it is not supported by the actual facts.

DiegoKate - chill out, woman! You are way too wrapped up in these people's lives. This woman made a comment based on her observations and you're telling her to go to a therapist?! Who's the one that's getting carried away and sounding a little obsessed here?

Kate does NOT have everyone's sympathies with her. It takes two to make a marriage. She was a shrew that nagged and bullied him and drove him out of the house. I am a woman and I watched the show ONE TIME and wondered why in the world he would allow that termagant to berate him like that on public TV. Typical spineless male. She deserves everything she gets. Wah, wah, wah.

I have to agree with "someone actually literate". I watched about 10 minutes of 1 show ever and couldn't watch any more. She yelled at him the entire time. I can't understand why anyone would want to live with that. I think Kate's just angry that he wouldn't put up with it anymore. I'm actually surprised they didn't get divorced years ago if that's how she treats him.

Right on, Liz!

Where did you get that idea? family daily needs include having enough income to support the children. family daily needs include house maintenance, car maintenance, etc. If it is the woman's godly responsibility to take care of the family daily needs, what godly responsibility is left for the man?

A real man can only be emasculated if he agrees to it. Jon agreed to the type of relationship he was in.

I agree. Jon entered the marriage as an irresponsible child with dreams of having another 'mommy' to take care of him. He married a nurse because she would know what to do when he got sick or injured- he was looking for nurturing- not a partner. He did not want equality in his marriage. He expected her to take responsibility for everything- he said it himself.

Kate is not a head case & not a psycho. She married a baby rather than a man. They did not take the time to know themselves & each other well enough to honestly admit that bringing more kids into their marriage would be a disaster. They needed counseling early on.

Before people enter into a marriage, they need to discuss all these issues up front and they need to agree on how they will handle them as a couple. If they don't, both parties assume how it is going to be and become frustrated and angry when it doesn't go the way they had imagined it. But, no couple expects to have twins and quads! How do you prepare for that or for being on t.v. 24/7? They are both very young to be thrown into the reality t.v. and celebrity arena that just chews people up and spits them out. It clearly has hurt their marriage and to have your wife berate and belittle you like that is bad enough let alone in front of an audience of millions. That is an instant recipe for disaster. They both need to get OFF the t.v. and go for some serious marriage counseling.

Geez! Can't believe you think that. John is a stump, who sits around complaining. He didn't want to work outside the home. He wanted more time at home with the kids. As it was he was only spending a few days a week at an outside job, by his own admission. He didn't like that and changed jobs so he could work at home. Didn't like that either. What does John like?? Young girls, drinking,fame,spending money on his toys,brow beating his wife, camera time,getting sympathy, and being a baby throwing tantrums in public. His body language says he's a liar, over and over.

The kids have been out of diapers since they were three! He hasn't had to do more than anyone else would for their family.

Cathy your absolutely right, i would not put up with that woman in any way shape or form, alot of woman on here disagree with you simply because they wish they could have the same type of relationship where they control everything their husband says and does, even to the point of him getting a weekly"allowance" . that was never a relationship that children should have been brought into to begin with and i agree wholeheartedly that kate is nothing more then a money hungry maneater...the kids sell the show and they are being taken advantage of by their own mother, all in the name of the almighty dollar. jon may well be immature but she has just as much blame in this situation and in my opinion even more then he. the show should be cancelled before anymore harm comes to the children and i think they could both benefit from long therapy sessions

To chemist09h2: I commend you for all you do and have done for your girls, not many men would have done better. Thank heavens for your sister to help you with the puberty issues. Thank goodness there are fathers out there like you who gladly and lovingly took on the responsibilities you did and succeeding at it as well. But in watching the show the couple of times I could stomach it (I hated the way Kate always berated Jon in public all the time). But then Jon emptied out the bank accounts. Where did he think she was going to get the funds she needed to run the family after that. I think the first thing they did wrong was to go public in the first place (just my opinion). Bless you for you strength in all you did for your girls. ~~Suzy~~

While I agree with the majority of your statement, I will add that the negative connotation of being a stay at home dad also applies to mothers. As a "mommy tracked" professional, I was simply amazed at the open hostility of working mothers by my choice to stay home with my kids. I have been told that I am not a "good role model" to my daughter, that I "coddle my children by being home" and am "not preparing them for life as it is now". I have also been asked point blank how I have any identity without furthering my career, and how do I stand staying home "doing nothing".

These same moms wonder why their kids are attention seeking, out of control children. I'm all for moms and dads making whatever choice works for their families, but for Pete's sake, someone needs to be raising the kids! Bravo to all those dads that do it proudly!

I would not like to go back to the 50's. Once a woman was married and had kids, that was it. The rest of her life was spent serving them. Being expected to greet hubby at the door in full make-up with a smile and a drink and dinner on the table? No thanks.

I did stay home with both of my kids for the first two years of their lives. It is not 24/7 shopping. In fact, we made quite a financial sacrifice for me to stay home. Shopping didn't happen. It was all cleaning, cooking, and nurturing. Very important, yes. Was it for me? No. I love being at work. I need the adult interaction and the feeling of accomplishing something every day. I didn't get that at home. Everything I did throughout the day was undone by the end of the day only for me to start over the next day while I stayed at home.

Now my husband stays at home while I work. It suits both of us much better. He loves it. The children are every bit as near and dear to his heart as they are to mine. I don't see how you can claim that one parent is not suited to be the daily influence. If that is the case, you chose the wrong person to reproduce with.

I should have just waited for your post. You said it better than I could!!

I agree. Telling the Rabbi that he is sorry for how he emotionally hurt Kate, in itself, is not an apology to Kate. But then he had to justify his immaturity by blaming her for not meeting his expectations. For all intents and purposes Jon never apologized. I wonder of he understands that.

To DiegoKate: Bless you for finally being the first to say that. Did Jon really think that apologizing to the Rabbi for his actions was also alopogizing to Kate. For that matter (and I ask because I stopped keeping up with the Jon & Kate +8 rubbish) has Kate ever apologized personally to Jon for all the public berating she did on live TV? I was only able to stomach a couple of the shows because I could not stand what being a public family was doing to the children. Even their eldest daughter kept telling the camaras to go away. Tonight we get to watch Kate's very public interview and someday we will get to watch and interview from the +8 side of the equation. Won't that be interesting.