Battling backtalk: Five tips every parent needs

From Amy McCready, founder of Positive Parenting Solutions

Whether it’s a toddler’s defiant “No,” or a teenager screaming, “You can’t tell me what to do,” backtalk is enough to make any parent’s blood boil. What’s worse, it often seems our natural reaction to backtalk (“How dare you speak to me that way” or “You’ll do it because I said so, young lady!”) only makes the problem snowball.

No one wants to raise a bratty kid, but it seems parents everywhere are battling backtalk. In fact, this is the number one behavioral issue sited by parents who contact me -– filled with frustration and wondering where they’ve gone wrong. Bill Cosby captured that frustration well when he famously joked, “I brought you into this world… I can take you out!”

So what can do we do to stop backtalk in its tracks? First, let’s look at the reasons behind it.

Why do kids talk back?
Kids talk back for a variety of reasons. They may be testing your limits or trying to get a reaction. Perhaps they’re hungry, tired or just having a bad day. However, if backtalk is frequent, it’s usually the child’s way of exerting his power and saying “You’re not the boss of me."

We’re all hard-wired with a need for POSITIVE power -– the ability to have some control over our lives. When parents over-protect, over-demand, or constantly order, correct and direct their kids… they strip them of independence and personal power.

The only way our kids know to respond is to fight back. It’s a basic fight or flight response. They can’t easily flee (your food and shelter are way better than they can afford on their own), so they fight back with backtalk, attitude, negotiating, arguing, stomping away, eye rolling, etc.

All kids, toddlers through teens, seek to exert their independence -– it’s what they’re supposed to do. Our goal as parents is to foster their independence within our limits and without the back talk.

Here are five tips to help you reduce backtalk in your house.

Own your role: Power struggles that lead to backtalk are a two-way street and parents also play a starring role. Be aware of your day in and day out communication with your kids (and your spouse, for that matter!) Watch your tone of voice and minimize the amount of ordering, correcting and directing you do. No one wants to be “bossed around” all day and the natural reaction is to fight back.

Remember, it’s not about “winning” the battle. It’s about recognizing that your child needs more control over her life and helping her find ways to have positive power within your boundaries.

Fill the attention basket: Kids of all ages have an attention basket -– plain and simple. If they don’t get sufficient positive attention, they will use negative behaviors to provoke us until they get our attention. From their perspective, negative attention is better than no attention at all. Fill their attention baskets in positive ways by spending one-on-one time with your kids daily. It doesn’t have to be a long time – just 10 minutes when they have your undivided time and attention (if the phone rings, don’t answer… if your Blackberry chirps, let it go.) As you fill their attention baskets positively and proactively, your kids will become more cooperative and less likely to provoke power struggles.

Finding a spare 10 minutes to spend with each child can seem daunting in a busy non-stop life, but think of it as an “investment” in good behavior, a calmer home and less backtalk.


Give power to the people: Find ways to give your people the positive power they need. Provide more choices -- within your family boundaries –- so they can have more control over their world. To a toddler, power means choosing between a Batman and Spiderman toothbrush. To a teenager, it can be allowing him to decide which restaurant the family goes to on Saturday night.

Chill out: Don’t overreact! Kids talk back to get a reaction. When you get upset and respond with “you will not talk to me that way, young man”, they score with a power payoff.

Instead, get eye to eye and very calmly say, “I feel hurt/disrespected when you speak to me that way. When I hear that tone of voice, I’m going to walk away. I’ll be happy to talk with you when we can speak to each other respectfully.”

Then – walk away! The next time it happens, don’t remind; don’t say a word. Just calmly walk away. It sends the message, “I won’t participate in this power struggle with you.”

Rule of law: Be very clear about the rules in your house and be equally clear about the consequences if the rules are broken. Then, if kids push the limits, follow through -– each and every time. Parents don’t have to be harsh or overly strict. They just have to set fair limits, communicate those limits clearly and be consistent in implementing consequences when appropriate.

Amy McCready is the founder of Positive Parenting Solutions and mom to two boys, ages 12 and 14. Positive Parenting Solutions teaches parents of toddlers to teens how to correct misbehaviors permanently without nagging, reminding or yelling.

For free training resources and additional information on backtalk, power struggles, whining, tantrums and more, visit: http://www.positiveparentingsolutions.com

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Ugh, backtalk is a HUGE issue in our house - thanks for this great information.

    Reply#1 - Fri Mar 5, 2010 12:48 PM EST
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    This is such good advice. I have to work on not over reacting to back talk. It only makes it worse with my kids.

      Reply#2 - Fri Mar 5, 2010 4:56 PM EST

      Backtalk has recently become a huge issue with my 4 year old. Like this article says, it makes my blood boil and my natural reaction is usually to raise my voice. I will try these techniques, thanks!

        Reply#3 - Fri Mar 5, 2010 5:24 PM EST

        Back talk is one of my daughters issues too. I tend to overreact. It's nice to have this advice; I could use all I can get. Now how about some advice on not listening??

          Reply#4 - Sat Mar 6, 2010 1:27 AM EST
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          A few years ago a college class I was in was posed a question about why we responded to our parents in certain ways as we grew up. I realized that a lot of my back talking had to do with my parents being on separate pages, bickering together constantly, and having no set limits or schedule. I, along with lots of other little kids I see today, figured that if my parents weren't able to speak respectfully to each other, then why should I let these people tell me what to do? They couldn't even take their own lesson and apply it to themselves.

          Knowing this now, my husband and I try to watch our tones and words to each other, especially with the little ones around. If we slip up and have a bad day where we use annoyed tones or raise our voices a bit to each other, without fail my toddler will "back talk" and resist our authority. It really hit home that example speaks far louder than words.

            Reply#5 - Sat Mar 6, 2010 3:13 AM EST
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            Very good information. It makes sense to deal with issues in a positive manner rather than yelling. I like the attention basket idea. I plan to incorporate that into my parenting. Thank you for helping me in my quest to always improve myself and become a better parent.

              Reply#6 - Sat Mar 6, 2010 7:15 AM EST

              Enjoy reading your writing...

                Reply#7 - Sat Mar 6, 2010 9:55 AM EST

                Excellent article! Sometimes, the best way to be in control is by letting others think that they are! Postive Parenting Solutions allow "win-win" situations for all involved.

                  Reply#8 - Sat Mar 6, 2010 12:46 PM EST

                  Thanks for showing us that spanking's not the solution to backtalk, which many parents seem to feel is the only way to get respect from a child.

                    Reply#9 - Sat Mar 6, 2010 1:55 PM EST

                    My middle daughter was a very stubborn, independent toddler who rebelled against every request, suggestion, or order. I learned quickly to give her choices to make her feel more in control. The trick was to give her choices that would make me happy no matter what she chose. "Do you want to hold my left hand or right hand in the parking lot?" "Do you want to wear your blue shorts or your pink shorts?" "Do you want to pick up your toys before or after your snack?" It made a world of difference in the sassy backtalk department.

                      Reply#10 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 12:23 AM EST

                      choices schmoices...just use a thin leather belt on their rearends and they will never ever step out of line.

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                      Reply#11 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 3:33 AM EST

                      Obviously, you don't have children.....plus, this technique must have been used on you....and see....you are still mouthy!

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                      #11.1 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 7:55 AM EST
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                      Whippins sure kept me and my brothers in line. Otherwise, it would've been a madhouse. Thank God for parental discipline that kept us on the straight and narrow. Back talk got a slap in the face, cussing got a bar of soap in the mouth, and smoking meant chewing up the pack of cigarettes and swallowing the tobacco -a sure stomach ache. We'd never think of yelling at our parents. "Hush, or I'll give you something to cry about."

                      We did as we were told. Ours was not to reason why. Our parents did our thinking for us. My duty was to listen and do as I was told. It worked. We four siblings all have college degrees, professional jobs, clean records, and none of us yell at or beat our spouses. We were taught right from wrong, plain and simple. Our parents acted like responsible parents, instead of push-overs trying to be a big buddy.

                      It's true . . . "spare the rod, spoil the child."

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                      #12 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 4:03 AM EST

                      It's very true. Unfortunately, this media controlled society has declared that it knows better than God and declared that such discipline be outlawed. They cripple us with one hand, and declare us unfit with the other when our children flounder because of the standards they set, standards that keep us from doing our jobs as parents.

                      This double standard stance has become S.O.P., so much so that now the ones living their lives as they should, caring and disciplining their children as they should are frowned upon, while everyone else is a model citizen. I didn't enjoy getting a whipping, but that was the whole point! Only a masochist would go out of their way to get disciplined, otherwise you did what you were told... and it was never anything unreasonable.

                      Shame on all those who are bringing society down with this "buddy" mentality. Our children already have buddies, what they need is parents to guide them on the right path. I tell my children when I ground them "hate me all you want, just do what you're told". That's what my father used to tell me, and guess what? I love him for it! He didn't let me get away with squat. He would sit me down, tell me why I was being disciplined, and whip out his belt afterward. THAT is discipline, not this farce being presented to us with a sugar coating. You can keep it, I'm already nauseous enough as it is.

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                      #12.1 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 5:59 AM EST

                      Back talk got a slap in the face, cussing got a bar of soap in the mouth, and smoking meant chewing up the pack of cigarettes and swallowing the tobacco -a sure stomach ache

                      Yes, and this is why social services workers, shrinks, cops, lawyers and judges have such massive job security these days...

                      I came from one of these households where they lined us up in the garage for our daily whooping with a 2x4. It did not matter if you were not the "guilty" party. I also am highly successful, raising two smart boys, and I have a graduate degree. This is because I overcame the violence.

                      Additionally, why is it domestic violence if you hit an adult, but discipline if you hit a child? You should treat all children with kindness, respect and understanding. That is what makes a wonderful little person.

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                      #12.2 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 6:49 AM EST

                      I'm wishing that I hadn't had such a struggle whether or not to spank. It's much harder (not to mention pointless) trying to do it when they are all taller than you. I think the best deterrant to this is when the parents are totally united. Having my husband mock me or make sure whatever I'm saying or wanting done doesn't matter, of course the kids won't respect. It blows my mind everytime I hear "No, I'm NOT doing dishes" or the lawn or .... you get the picture. I've told my husband that he's not doing them any favors and I doubt they will thank him when they are older and out on their own. I ended up always feeling so guilty that I d let it go...

                        #12.3 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 7:09 AM EST

                        To beat a child is to insert violence into their future. Good for you for getting those great jobs, hope you fail and die. But now turn around and look a the real world. The world of the twenty-first century, where if you beat your child, they eather die, or they abuse their family later in life. It causes mass violence. I know that everytime my parents spanked me, or my baby-sitter hit me with her damn brush, and later a plank of wood, that I just turned around and did it again. Everyone who agrees that hitting a child is the right way to go, deserves the death penalty regardless of why they did it. The soap thing did nothing for me either. Baby-bitch made me eat soap for telling her kid to leave me alone. So I put soap in her water bottle.

                        When your kid is a teenager, try to hit him/her. He/she will either cry, or fight. I wish every parent who ever laid a violent finger on their child was to burn as slowly as humanly possible with as much pain as could be felt before it stopped hurting and die. What you are doing by hitting a child is not discipline, but pure violence. "Oh, you won't do that? I'm just going to beat you senseless until you do." You're all @!$%#s who need manners. Lose your jobs, lose your families, and suffer for all of your natural and unnatural life. I feel bad for your children and grandchildren and wives and whatever else you may have. You're unfit to be human beings. Children need friends, not bosses. There is no f------ god. It's a figment of imagination that people rely on to right their wrongs. Back when u guys were kids, it was okay to beat your kid and make him/her swallow poisonous items. It's wrong now. I agree that the government needs to keep it's nose out of our homes, but a child that is spanked with anything, or forced to swallow something unnatural, needs to be saved. They deserve love and caring. They deserve to be cherished. Don't beat your kids because your parents beat you. It's wrong. You're wrong. You're stupid and selfish and wrong. because you guys would have been a mad house for misstepping means that you're all horrible people anyway. Find your own damn path instead of letting your parents give you one. Do you want your kids beating up every f------ person they see? That's what happens. they think "Dad beat me for this, so I'm going to do it to that kid because they won't listen to me." Your sort of people are the precise reason I hate the human population. I can't wait for all of your type to die. The planet would be so peaceful without all you stupid abusers of the world.

                        Like I said before, lose your jobs, lose your families, lose your lives. No parent should ever, ever hit their child or force them to swallow harmful items as you guys do to your children. Pompous @!$%#s. This is the twenty-first century, not the fifteenth, where beating was legal. Give your kids up for adoption to better homes. You all suck.

                          #12.4 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 7:59 AM EST

                          If your husband mocks you or makes sure what you say or want doesn't matter, then YOU are not doing the kids any favors by staying with him. Don't accept that kind of treatment from anyone.

                            #12.5 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 8:08 AM EST

                            Finally, someone with more than half a brain - you're response was refreshing. I'm so sick of hearing none sense from the "feel good" generation. All this "you own your anger" and "empowering this" and "empowering that" is nauseating. Like you, my brothers and I were raised in a christian family and were taught high moral and ethical standards. If we did something wrong, we were punished - sometimes with a whipping. Never did my parents sit us down, hold hands and discuss our "feelings" about our infractions. All my brothers, like you're 4 brothers, also have college educations, professional occupations and wonderful, respectful families.

                            I am particularly disgusted with this piece of advice from the article above: “I feel hurt/disrespected when you speak to me that way. When I hear that tone of voice, I’m going to walk away. I’ll be happy to talk with you when we can speak to each other respectfully.” - This is so wrong on so many levels, there just isn't enough room here to discuss it. ...But, what I will say is teen's could not care less about this line. You walking away is a sign of weakness and they will feel they have won the battle. While they might feel a bit dejected, the stronger and more lasting emotion will be that they view you as wimpy, unable to stomach confrontation. Your inability to handle the "fire when the heat get's turned up" will only strengthen their resolve in their belief that you were wrong.

                            Instead of running away like a coward, how about excersizing your parental authority and DEMAND respect or ELSE... And by "else" I mean taking action - real action - not sitting around hugging each other and singing Kumbaya - action that has real consequence at that moment in time.

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                            #12.6 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 8:56 AM EST

                            Sounds like hates abusers needs a time-out , and a mouth full of soap . I raise my children according to the bible which includes the rod when needed . If the rest of the world did so we would be better for it. BTW hates abusers , there is a GOD ,whether you believe or not doesn't make GOD unreal, and you will stand before GOD after you die and answer for all your words and actions!

                              #12.7 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 9:28 AM EST

                              This is for "hate abusers".

                              Seriously, you need medical attention before the guilt of your past causes you to hurt yourself or somebody else...Your grip on reality has released, and you are headed for disaster...Hurry, before you spread your infantile nonsense any further.

                              Oh, and "Hollywoods Mom", which googles as a magazine, you may sell issues based on warm and fuzzy pablum, but you have no business on this site pretending to be a concerned individual..You think we are all idiots, like the mommies who buy your self_serving BS?

                                #12.8 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 10:03 AM EST

                                Do you sacrifice animals on an altar too? It takes someone with intelligence to "interpret" the Bible for what it truly means for us living in our modern society. It's easy to say that you follow the word of God and take everything literally from the Bible. That way you don't need to use your brain, you just mindlessly swallow whatever is given you. I'm glad that you realize that you will stand before God. Maybe God will straighten you out and punish you for abusing your children.

                                  #12.9 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 10:06 AM EST

                                  Give me a break.

                                    #12.10 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 10:20 AM EST

                                    You should not give( hates abusers )a hard time it sounds like he is an abuse victim there is a very big difference between abuse and spanking your child because they just wont stop doing something like playing with the stove. people who use spanking as discipline unless they are screwed up generally use other methods too. time out telling them no and first establishing what the boundaries are problem with most new age methods parents have to be on the same page to work and so few are me and my husband were raised in two completely different worlds and he and I understands very little of those worlds my father spanked me when i miss behaved.

                                    I was a straight a student i went to modeling school did after school activities and was trusted enough to do as i was told that when i was 12years old i was taking subways

                                    To travel across Manhattan to go to john j college as part of the gifted math and science program they did in the 90'S

                                    my father died when i was 13 my mom didn't spank us she didn't want anything to do with us for awhile i smoked pot in my house had make out parties got drunk high danced on tables. my mom talked to me told me what she did and didn't want me to do she also brought home porn and had me and my older cousins watch it with her.

                                    tell you what i only lived with my moms rules for 4 years that 4 years screwed me up so much. When straitening out my life it was the lessons i learned from my dad that i clung to. I go to therapy to this day because now i have PTSD, OCD and am absolutely terrified that anyone can be a child abuser even if you have known them for years.

                                    I went from being a straight A student and over achiever when my dad was alive to a high school drop out. He spanked. Now let me say right hear spanking is hand to butt it is not switches two by fours, hangers,or switches that is not in anyway good for anyone.

                                    I mostly use other discipline methods to teach my kids but when all else fails and they still wont listen i swat there buts.

                                    In the south they teach what ways are healthy discipline methods spanking is included in parenting classes.

                                      #12.11 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 11:14 AM EST

                                      This is exactly what happened to my brother, sister, and me. This is what kids need to have respect for elders. My wife and I are trying our best to make sure our child understands that we are the parents and you will mind us.

                                      The problem with some people on this blog is the parents might of beat them and now they are negative about this type of punishment. I feel bad that your parents abused you! But there is a way to discipline your children and also get the respect you need to go on in life. I hope that more people give kids positive yet stern discipline to make the kids respect you and others in life.

                                        #12.12 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 12:00 PM EST

                                        I have 2 teenagers one 17 and one 14 and i started when they were young with back talk with swats on their butts as well as taking their privelages away from them. now both of my kids are very respectful and do not back talk me or their father. It starts when there young bu not letting them rule the house. Me and my husband are the adults in the house and they kids have what they have because of us and we demand respect. My kids have several friends who talk to their parents like dogs and My kids will say things to them like dont talk to your parents like that.

                                        Now I do believe there is a huge different in spanking and beating. I was beaten when i was younger but when the kids are young swatting their butts worked and now that they are bigger then my i havnt had to spank i simply say give me your phone etc...

                                        The problem with todays society is that parents dont parent anymore they let the kids do what they want when they want because it is less of a hassle to deal with. I believe you shouldnt have kids if you are not willing to properly raise them.

                                          #12.13 - Tue Mar 9, 2010 1:00 PM EST

                                          My parents were the same way. I had a lot of mouth and my father had no problem disciplining me, tearing my butt up, and his punishments were the worse....he listened for all sounds in and out the house, he would pick up the phone and embarrass you or maybe even listen...he was the breadwinner, Mama took care of the house and my job was to go to school, behave and act decent. I'm sooo glad my father nurtured me like he did, it surely has paid off.

                                            #12.14 - Tue Mar 9, 2010 3:50 PM EST

                                            to hates abusers......while we all can see where you are coming from...obviously you did not get enough whoopins as a child to be so disrespectful that you feel the need to use cuss words.....

                                            while there is a fine line between discipline and abuse I will tell you this....as told to me not only by a lawayer but a social worker as well if the red mark last more than a few hours its considered abuse.......let me tell you if we back talked my paretns growing up we would get back handed.....as an adult I do not speak to my parents in a disrespectful way nor do I allow anyone of my friends to either.....nor my children.

                                            I got the belt for discipline but not abuse...my parents loved me enough to keep me on the right path in life and stay out of trouble with the law.....

                                            as for the god issue....how dare you use his name in vain.........I do not care if you have a religion or not.. there is a god and I surely hope he finds a way to help you get over your wrong attitude......

                                              #12.15 - Thu Apr 8, 2010 6:34 PM EDT
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                                              WOW! Am I ever glad to see I am not the only parent who overreacts to backtalk! I took a positive parenting class and have learned to adjust my tone of voice and overreaction! Well, not totally but I am getting there. Giving choices is the key- I had a hard time with that one too...it does make life a lot easier though so I have changed alot and have a much more peaceful house as a result. In response to the comment before mine- I was raised on the leather belt and it may produce the result you want at the time but it is out of fear that the child behaves. I suffered through adulthood seeming to choose strong abusive mates. It does not produce a loving close relationship with your parents. I think the advise in this column is the best and thanks for sharing.

                                                Reply#13 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 4:18 AM EST

                                                I have a great relationship with my 3 teenager boys. One way I found that works good for me is the respect I have for them. What they think is important and it counts. Their dreams are very special and I work with them to make sure they reach their goals and dreams. They make mistakes and they see the sadness in my eyes, but they want to fix their mistakes, I walk with them through the process of fixing what is wrong. My message to them is "nobody is perfect, we all make mistakes, but we don't have to give up on each other for that reason. Together we can fix our mistakes". I concentrate on fixing more than punishing. They feel punished when they hurt me for doing something very wrong. To be honest, they are great! rarely they cause me pain. Our back talking don't last too long because I am a good listener and my calm tone of voice brings them to the same tone. Another good thing is that I don't like to control people. I like to help them to find their way in life. I am a mother and a coach for my boys. I love them and I feel their love for me. I agree with the reasons why kids back talk. It's all about attention and communication in between parents and kids.

                                                  Reply#14 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 4:19 AM EST

                                                  to hot in miami

                                                  it is a solution, one of many ways to deal with different personality's

                                                    Reply#15 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 4:20 AM EST

                                                    A good hand to the backside will solve the problem. We see and hear to many stories in the news where parents that take the time outs, stern talking to actually wind up being run over by their own kids. What this country needs is to get back to parents taking a good switch to correct their kids instead of this push over weak minded mess.

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                                                    Reply#16 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 4:26 AM EST

                                                    Bend over

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                                                    #16.1 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 6:53 AM EST

                                                    To Hollywoods Mom

                                                    Hey...Now you're teasing..naughty magazine!

                                                      #16.2 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 10:08 AM EST

                                                      spankings will never solve back talking its basically saying shut your moth or I'll beat you

                                                      spanking if you choose to use it is a method that should be reserved for playing with ovens and out lets the kids of things that if they don't learn will get them or someone else killed.

                                                        #16.3 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 11:29 AM EST

                                                        Hollywoods Mom: I might like it to much..lol :)

                                                        Abused: Sorry you were abused, but there is a difference between a spanking and abuse. Spanking will most definitely stop back talking and no it's not saying shut your mouth or I'll beat you that's just silly. What it does teach them is that they are consequences for their actions or cause and effect. The only thing walking away does is reinforce more bad behavior by showing them that if they do these things it's basically going to cause the parent to walk away leaving them alone in which case they get away with it and teaches them nothing much like time-outs. My parents once told me when I was young that they were not here to be my friend they were here to raise me and teach me right from wrong and once I become a adult then they didn't have to be so much of a parent but could be more of a friend and that's exactly what happened.

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                                                        #16.4 - Mon Mar 8, 2010 2:18 AM EST
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                                                        10 minutes a day really? You think just 10 minutes a day will make a kid happy? They want all the attention they can get. Maybe if parents spent more than 10 minutes a day paying attention to their kids the kids would have a lot less problems and not just with back talk.

                                                          Reply#17 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 4:50 AM EST

                                                          T_Bird I agree with you 100% spank that ass so they know where your coming from. Thats  what i got when i was young and it did wonders . But than you have the people who want to jail you for abuse  thats bs . All unruley kids need the to have a spanking so they know that you are in charge not them.

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                                                          Reply#18 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 4:58 AM EST

                                                          Speaking of "jail". Since you seem to know it all, I'm sure you know all about the research done with inmates in our country's jails and prisons. An overwhelming percentage of inmates were abused as children. But since you know all this, you must also enjoy preparing our next generation to abuse others in society and become part of the inmate population.

                                                            #18.1 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 10:31 AM EST

                                                            momof4,grandmaof5

                                                            Speaking of "jail". Since you seem to know it all, I'm sure you know all about the research done with inmates in our country's jails and prisons. An overwhelming percentage of inmates were abused as children. But since you know all this, you must also enjoy preparing our next generation to abuse others in society and become part of the inmate population.

                                                            There is a difference between spanking and abuse, but by what you just typed you wouldn't know that. It's that same line of thinking that you typed that is the root cause of problems in todays society because kids don't learn a thing about cause and effect.

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                                                            #18.2 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 11:59 AM EST

                                                            momof4,grandmaof5, You have some kinda of warped brain. Maybe this is why you act like you are superior and mom of four and garandma of 5. You sound like a freak! Someone needs to come and check you and your kids to see if you are an abuser.

                                                            You seem like you are holding back a lot of guilt from neglecting or abusing your own kids and grand kids.

                                                            Please get some help with your issues because I think you are danger to yourself and others. This is my opinion of you mom of 4 and grandma of 5!

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                                                            #18.3 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 12:16 PM EST
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                                                            I don't spare my children a spanking if they require one but also I believe in teaching them to respect not fear. I feel those that ore speaking of the "good ole days" have failed to notice that the outside influence has changed as well as the laws. I never spank my child with a bare hand because they then fear your touch. The last thing you hope to accomplish is getting you child to flinch when you walk by. And one swat on the bottom with a wooden spoon is quite enough and it doesn't need to leave a welt for three days. It is simply a correction method. Your child soon responds to a calm reminder that the spoon is not very comfortable on the bottom. Be good to your children and let them know that you truely do love them and that you don't take them for granted. afterall where are your parents now and who do you think will take care of you when you are old and unable to care for yourself, certainly not a child who felt abused by you or unloved. I wouldn't want that type of person in my home with my children, grandparents or not.

                                                              Reply#19 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 5:02 AM EST

                                                              akslywitch look at all the kids that steal ,get pregnat and and the bullies in school the parents dont correct them . I have a friend with a 13 year old daughter who back talks to the mother and all the mother does is go to her room and say,s nothing now that is just wrong .The laws today say you cant spank your kids well when i was in school the teacher had the board of education and they used it on unruley kids times have changed and now you go to jail or you put up with there crap not this grandfather .

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                                                              Reply#20 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 5:25 AM EST

                                                              actually the law doesnt state you cant spank your kids, cps can come in and take your kids for it but if you fight it you will win. because even the law know the difference between spanking and a beating.

                                                                #20.1 - Tue Mar 9, 2010 1:06 PM EST
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                                                                The whole problem is we have had our right to be a good parent taken from ourselves. The first thing they teach when our children start school is if your parent yell at you, call the police. If we even look at them funny, call the police. I mean for real. If you don't take care of your kids, your in trouble. If you do take care of your kids, you still get in trouble. It has gotten so out of hand between disciplining and abuse. Most of us are scared to death to say boo. I try very hard to raise my kids to be respectful, good, and loving human beings, so they will be the best they can be as adults. It's very hard to do this when they see so many other kids being total hell-raising spoiled brats, and WE gets smacked in the face with that all the time. So and so get to go where ever they want, nobody has a cerfew and there parents do care. I say to those parent, they have given up....But, as long as I am breathing, i will never give up. Don't abuse your kids, just make them mind so they will be successful adults. This is our job of being parents.

                                                                  Reply#21 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 5:48 AM EST
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                                                                  For those of us who were raised by the rod. How many of use are now faced with "taking careof" these parents. The ones who abused us, but now require our sympathy, time and understanding. It seems like they were pissed years ago because our needs got in the way. Now, they are pissed again because we struggle to find the will to take care of them.

                                                                    Reply#22 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 5:50 AM EST

                                                                    I was raised with the rod, not abused by it. When I got the rod, there was a reason behind it, and I heard the reason before I felt the consequences. Not once did I receive "angry discipline". Looks like you weren't as fortunate, and for that you have my sympathies.

                                                                    Not only will I take care of my parents when the time comes (they're well into their retirement by are as energetic as ever), but I will do so with a loving attitude, nurturing them in their later years the same way they cared for me in my younger years.

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                                                                    #22.1 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 6:11 AM EST

                                                                    I was raised by the rod as well and as Jerseydad said I was told the reason before I got the spanking. Now I take care of my mom (I took care of both mom and dad till dad passed away) and I have no problem with doing so. As I said before there is a cause and effect of anything we do and that's what I learned when I got spanked and it's that same thing that a lot of kids today are not learning. I'm a single dad raising my 2 kids (my son is 13 and my daughter is 11) and they know the reason for the spanking before hand and they also know I love them.

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                                                                    #22.2 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 12:17 PM EST
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                                                                    Back talking on occasion has been a problem but nothing that I haven't corrected without incident. Children today need so much guidance and direction and at times as parents our hands are tied. I've been thru the whole,"you ground or hit me I will call the cops!". I've told my children good luck with that. I've even offered to call for them. Don't threaten me, I'm one of those parents who will see it thru. I feel I have a wonderful relationship with my children and the respect that I deserve as a parent and they in return get the respect I feel that they deserve/have earned. As a family once a week, I set aside one day of uninterrupted time for my children. We have dinner and a movie. We pick the movie together, I cook dinner, they clean up, and ABSOLUTELY NO CELL PHONES. It has brought us closer as a whole and not so much as bits and pieces in passing. When one of my children is having a bad day, I sit them down and talk to them. One on One. If they don't feel like talking, I wait but I do make it known that when they are ready I am here for them and will drop what I am doing so we can talk.

                                                                      Reply#23 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 6:29 AM EST

                                                                      Thank you, Hollywood Mom, for kindly and respectfully speaking sense to Jeff and Jerseydad.  It's obvious that they were raised in some pretty abusive households as well, and it's a shame that they still think that children need to be hit and otherwise abused in order to become productive members of society.  I pray that their children do not continue the cycle.

                                                                        Reply#24 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 7:12 AM EST

                                                                        It's a shame that people think they can just talk or do time outs and their kids will be alright even though we see in the news that those kids are the ones that are running over their parents. My household was not abusive at all, but I learned that if I did something wrong I was going to get spanked the cause and effect that I've mentioned before. I've also said before there is a difference between getting spanked and abuse but in todays world there are to many weak parents that fail to see that.

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                                                                        #24.1 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 12:23 PM EST

                                                                        I find your 'data' curious. We don't spank our kids. We use time-outs, discussion, earning vs losing privileges. Our kids don't walk all over us. Please quote credible information.

                                                                          #24.2 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 1:53 PM EST

                                                                          Listen to parents of some of the kids that have done some of the school shootings, listen to parents talk about having to send their kids to bootcamp and 99% of them say they have never spanked them and have tried talking to them, time outs, grounding and the list goes on but the kids look at them and laugh because it's a joke. Kids raised like that have no fear of the consequences of their action. I have family that works in the Juvenile Court Sytem and every case that they have had before them where kids are walking over their parents the parents have used time-outs, talks, walking away and they know this because it is a question they ask. Good grief stuff like this has been all over the news, papers and such just open your eyes and ears .

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                                                                          #24.3 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 8:15 PM EST
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                                                                          For every action we take, if there is true support of The Constitution, then we can walk freely. If not, then we should regret and seek forgiveness. The corner stone reason why I discipline my children is not because punishment itself has some power to give them wisdom. When I obey my Creator in bringing my children according to His ways, He gives wisdom to me and to my children. It is a matter of to whom we should pay respect and fear, is it God or man. Positive thinking works, if it is backed by God. I don't believe there is power in ourselves to heal anybody which is what is happening when we discipline ourselves and our children. I believe there is a spiritual side to everything that we handle physically. Thank you for the loving and careful thoughts to take care of 'backtalk' situations. It is wise to listen than to talk back.

                                                                            Reply#25 - Sun Mar 7, 2010 7:19 AM EST
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