'Aren't you a little old for trick-or-treating?'

By Mir Kamin for BlogHer.com 

I used to love Halloween. As a parent, I mean. What's cuter than little kids in costumes? Nothing! Little kids in costumes are awesome, and their joy over dressing up and getting mini Kit-Kats is its own reward! I even loved Halloween the year I decided I could easily make my daughter a costume, even though I really don't sew and am not crafty at all. I loved Halloween while I followed the "easy" costume directions, stabbed my fingers repeatedly, and swore a blue streak about the difficulty of sewing fake fur. I loved all four Halloweens that that homemade skunk costume was worn. (Twice by my daughter, twice by my son. With all of the hours that went into it, you bet I made sure we extracted the maximum value from that particular getup.)

I loved the Halloweens of licensed characters ("I'm Buzz Lightyear, Mama! TO INFINITY AND BEYOND!") and I even loved the more recent Halloweens of clever play-on-word costumes. (What do you get when you attach a bunch of fuzzy Easter chicks to a regular outfit? A chick magnet!) I have loved a lot of Halloweens, is what I'm saying.

But now? Now I am completely over Halloween.

Halloween is this weekend, and neither of my children have settled on a costume. My son (in 5th grade) wants us to make plans to go trick-or-treating with some friends of his, but he can't decide what he wants to wear. I'm not particularly looking forward to an evening of tromping around just so that he can get all jacked up on sugar. My daughter (7th grade) wants me to make her a costume, but she's not sure what, and also can't I please just drop her off with friends and then cease to exist?

"Aren't you a little old for trick-or-treating?" I ask her.

"What? That's like asking if I'm too old for candy. Which I'm not," she assures me.

I don't know what the accepted etiquette (if any) is, at this point; I do know that when kids my height come to my door begging for candy, I do think they're too old to go around begging for it, particularly as many of them don't even wear costumes once they get older. Some cities are banning teenage trick-or-treaters altogether. Call me a curmudgeon, but when a teen shows up with a bag and no costume, I always ask what they're dressed up as. And if they shrug or otherwise confess to not being dressed up, I tell them to come back once they're willing to work for their candy. I usually draw the line at telling them to get off my lawn, but c'mon. Put a little effort in, kids.

So I'm pretty much over it. I want to tell my son to make a decision and make it good, because this is his last year of elementary school and it's nearly time for him to give up this yearly ritual. And I want to tell my daughter to just buy herself a bag of Skittles and call it a day, but she claims that all of her friends still trick-or-treat, Mother, and I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Bah, humbug. Or perhaps it should be: Bah, gummy worms.

Other bloggers weigh in on Halloween and older kids:

  • Amy Mullis waxes hilarious about the options for her and her grown children.
  • Jackie Layer of Fowlerville High School states her case for high schoolers still trick-or-treating.
  • Free Range Kids has a few things to say about The Today Show's advice to parents on the acceptable age for kids to trick-or-treat without parents.
  • And just because babies on Halloween are always timely, and singing babies (and dogs) are way more fun than contemplating my middle schooler's costume needs, check out Annie's Halloween Quandary for an overdose of cute.

BlogHer Contributing Editor Mir is in your candy stash, stealing the dark chocolate. She blogs near-daily about issues parental and otherwise at Woulda Coulda Shoulda, and posts all day long about the joys of mindful retail therapy at Want Not.

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Do you have older kids? Do they still trick-or-treat? Honestly, are you over it? Watch the video and share your thoughts in the comment section.


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Dear Blogger:

Your comments on the Halloween blahs made me laugh because I can sympothize with you! When they were younger it seemed like so much fun but then my kids got into older grades and suddenly the outfits were more elaborate or bloodier..(not a fan of this) and they no longer want to trick or treat with mom and dad- so sad. My daughter is in her senior year and she has put together the cutest cat costume from Alice and Wonderland...this will be her last year trick or treating. She is excited to go running around one last time with her friends and she is also sad since this is the last time she can.

When she reached highschool I thought she was too old to trick or treat anymore; but then, after seeing groups of highschoolers come around all dressed up and excited to get their candy, I realized they are still just children and are just as excited to trick or treat as when they were 6 years old. It is always hard to let them grow older and sometimes it feels like they took the fun out of certain activities once they get to old for our participation. So instead of holding thier little hands as they go door to door, I guess I will be just handing out candy this year while they go tromping around in seek of all that forbidden sugar!

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Reply#1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:18 PM EDT

Great attitude and you are so right about high school kids being kids, if allowed! Sure, on Nov. 1 they turn back to angst-ridden scowlers, mad at any adult looking their way, especially mothers. So enjoy the few hours of reliving those memories and sugar rushes. Don't forget to check their haul for 'poisoned' candy by eating your share...

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#1.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:01 PM EDT
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Teens showing up with their hands out and no costume get last year's candy.

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Reply#2 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:56 PM EDT

@Neil: HaHa! I think I'll take up that tradition!

I can't help but think Mir is a major killjoy. I trick-or-treated through highschool. I don't have any children, but I still love Halloween. I decorate the house with my Snow Village Halloween village (and I think the Christmas version of this village is just dumb), I carve a bunch of pumpkins, and I happily give out candy every year.

As far as the older kids go, most of them in my neighborhood make the effort to dress up, and I enjoy seeing them because they often get quite creative with their costumes (current events and political jokes).

You should treasure the fact that your kids still want to be kids and let them have a night of clean (albeit sugar-laced) fun.

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Reply#3 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:44 PM EDT

Larry David was right after all........

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Reply#4 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:25 PM EDT

Not to say they can't do both, but at least while the older kids are trick-or-treating they're not taking drugs, getting each other pregnant and stealing car stereos. I was a little irked a few years ago when someone in my neighborhood accosted an older boy about being too old to be out - he happened to be developmentally delayed and was with his little brother, I hope he didn't understand what she was talking about. On the other hand, I've seen nineteen-year-old mothers going door to door with their babies, maybe then it's time to give it a rest (until the kids get older and you can take them out and then help eat the proceeds!) Long live the Great Pumpkin

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Reply#5 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:03 PM EDT

"Not to say they can't do both, but at least while the older kids are trick-or-treating they're not taking drugs, getting each other pregnant and stealing car stereos."

Really? I think Halloween is prime time for all of the above, at least for older "children."

Even so, I love Halloween too. Unfortunately, I live somewhere that doesn't celebrate it. Much too the disappointment of my 8 year old daughter!

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#5.1 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:18 AM EDT

My neighborhood gets so few kids that I am happy to get any regardless of age. I am giving it out to all the kids, Teens, Tweens and kids at heart :)

HAPPY HALLOWEEN EVERYONE~

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#5.2 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:07 PM EDT
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I trick-or-treated up through high school too. My mom and dad always thought I was too old, and thought it was stupid and I shouldn't do it, but I always had a costume of some kind. My friends usually had good ones too. We definitely put the effort in. I agree that if a teen is going to go out, they ought to have a costume. Just showing up with a bag doesn't really cut it. I do give the candy, but I don't like it when they do that. I am now 31, and relish the thought of going with my 2 girls each year now.

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Reply#6 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:07 PM EDT

My son stopped after 8th grade, but this year his friends (they are HS juniors) are talking about it. They are good kids and I think a little farewell to childhood isn't a bad thing. I actually doubt they will. But, as Middle America Man points out, there are worse things for them to be into! My 8th grade daughter is going and I've hinted it is likely her last year. Then again, I remember going through high school myself, back in the late 70s.

We live in a safe, busy urban neighborhood and a lot of kids of all ages come from less safe areas. I welcome them all. It should be a festive night, not one of judging or begrudging. The more the merrier. Lights out when the candy's gone.

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Reply#7 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:11 PM EDT

I agree with the posters that it is fine for teenagers to be out trick or treating if they are dressed up and it is done in the Halloween spirit not just to be greedy. In my school district middle school and high school kids are encouraged to go tirck or treating for canned goods to donate to the food bank.

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Reply#8 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:51 PM EDT

Currently a 6 ft tall woman, I grew super fast as a kid. I was as tall as my mom by the time I was 8 yrs old. When I was trick-or-treating at the age 9 yrs old, the little old lady who came to the door harshly told me I was too old to be trick-or-treating and slammed the door in my face. (My costume did include a mask that covered my face).

I ran home, cried, and refused to trick-or-treat any more that night. It was a traumatizing experience. I already felt like an outcast because my body was developing so much faster than the other kids.

The next year I didnt want to go out. I was having a miserable time helping hand out the candy while in costume. It took a lot of convincing, but I reluctantly did hit a few houses that year. So basically, that was what I did the next few years. I handed out candy and hit the neighbors who I knew would not slam the door in my face. Halloween was ruined for me until I got old enough to go to parties.

Yes, they should at least attempt a costume... but if anyone comes to your door trick-or-treating, please dont slam it in their face. If they are adults or teenagers, you can just give them a penny candy (a single mint, whatever) and think of it as their payment for getting dressed up and making fools of themselves. What they want may be the joy of trick-or-treating rather than the actual candy... a way for them to still celebrate the holiday before (or rather than) going to drunken Costume Parties.

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Reply#9 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:48 AM EDT

I am sorry that old woman did that to you - but that is what mischief night is for. Halloween candy is a pay-off to leave my house alone. If I didn't give out candy I would have no right to complain if someone toilet-papered my trees. Even if you are forty, as long as you come to my door in costume I will give you candy. However, if you come in a T-shirt and a trash bag I will ask you to sing a song before I give you candy.

    #9.1 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:17 AM EDT

    I'm soooo glad you brought this up. This sort of happened to me. I was 11 (6th grade and my last year trick-or-treating) I was 5'8" tall (all the boys were 4 1/2 ft tall) and I was in a store looking for costume stuff when one of my mother's friends told me off for being too old. It shamed me into not going and even though everyone else in my class went...I didn't.

    So, people please remember...some kids are little even though they're big.

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    #9.2 - Mon Nov 1, 2010 8:22 AM EDT
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    The little ones are always very cute, but my daughter, a sophomore in high school still trick or treats with her friends.  They offer to sing or dance for candy and if the neighbors want a show, they've always got a good skit or routine, well choreographed and fun.  She tells me it's their last year and frankly, it will be missed.  Those neighbors that don't listen to their routine, still give them candy and enjoy their outfits.  When I open a door and see teenagers with a pillow sack and nothing else or maybe just a mask, I shake my head, smile,  tell them to have fun and be good.  It's a small price to pay for kids staying out of trouble and having some fun.  Long live Holloween! 

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    Reply#10 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:03 AM EDT

    In our town, trick or treating is a huge event. Many homeowners decorate to the hilt.

    My kids participated all through high school. Lots of teens put a lot of thought into creative non-scary costumes and fun play and parties. Some combine the night with volunteer work and charities.

    We always complain that kids grow up too fast. Let them be kids this one night.

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    Reply#11 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:42 AM EDT

    I trick-or-treated one year when I was 17 and I was dressed up and having fun and the houses my friends and I went to were more than happy to give us candy. So now, as an adult, I figure if the teenager put in the effort to dress up, then they deserve a piece of candy. And if they come between 8 and 10, most of the young kids are done and home, so I'd rather not eat all the extra candy. If the teen is not dressed up, then it's no candy. There are worse things in life that giving a 17 year old kid dressed as a chick magnet candy.

      Reply#12 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:35 AM EDT

      When my brother was in fifth grade, he was nearly six feet tall. One of our neighbors (an unpleasant, rather bitter woman,) looked up at him and said, "Aren't you a little old to be trick or treating?" He was a grade schooler...and he was crushed by her comment. Height is no indicator of age.

      As for the teens (and in some cases adults) who come around, snide comments usually gets your house egged. I just buy less expensive candy, and everyone gets a smile. It's only once a year.

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      Reply#13 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:07 PM EDT

      since i live in a rather remote area and there are few houses and fewer children, my 8th grader will not be headed out - it's silly for it to be just me and the kid. we'll watch classics like the original "invasion of the body snatcher" and "rocky horror picture show". I'll buy the candy.

        Reply#14 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:25 PM EDT

        I have always had a bah humbug attitude towards Hween. When I was single, I was afraid to open the door for 6'3" Freddie Kreugers. After I got married, my husband got the door, usually dressed up, and recently it has been over before I even get home from work. THIS year however, I am going all out. The yard is full of ghouls, skeletons, 8 carved pumpkins, tomb stones. I am at work today with black lipstick and spiders all over myself. I am going to greet the trick or treaters dressed as a witch in head to toe black with green face, broom and pointy hat. I am serving blood soup with eyeballs and swampgrass pasta with baby dragon tongues to my dinner guests. I don't know what has come over me. Bah humbug, no more!

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        Reply#15 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:59 PM EDT

        As long as they are some school age they are still kids. No one treats them like adults for anything else but don't want them to trick or treat, it's ridiculous. Let them enjoy while they can.

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        Reply#16 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:31 PM EDT

        Ouch. That hurt a lot thank you very much. As a sophmore in high school in a small town thats sometimes seems like a hole in the ground, my friends and I look foreward to Halloween trick-or-treating because we can all get together and goof off since we cant the rest of the year now that the UHS was built. This is our exscuse to get together for hours and run about the neighborhood like a bunch of lunatics while bleting out various Halloween songs such and "This is Halloween" from "The Nightmare Before Chirstmas" or "Trick or Treat" by the Vocaloids Rin and Len Kagamine. Most HS students are welcome to Trick-or-treat in the neighborhood so there really isnt an age limit. Even adults get candy around here.

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        Reply#17 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:14 PM EDT

        I'm glad to see so many ppl putting that their High Schoolers are still T / T-ing! I have no problem what-so-ever with the older kids going out. You buy so many bags of candy, and you hand it out to those who say trick or treat. You shouldn't be rude to the kids if they are polite! I did have some older kids come by the house one year - not dressed or anything, just rang the bell and stuck their bag out. I did make them say trick or treat - but they still got candy. Yes, my post is kind of rambly, but some people just really irk me when it comes to this. Let the kids have some more time as being kids! It doesn't last long then they turn into adults!

          Reply#18 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:33 PM EDT

          When I was a teen, I enjoyed Halloween thoroughly without trick-or-treating...we raised hell.  Nothing too destructive, but that's what Halloween used to be about for big kids.  I don't mind teen trick-or-treaters if they're dressed up.  I think maybe the "trick" aspect of halloween should be brought back, then maybe the crabby neighbors who keep their house dark will learn to participate in this community holiday.  Halloween used to be fun.  I feel like over-parenting and grumpiness are killing it.

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          Reply#19 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:35 PM EDT

          My boy's stopped in 7th grade they were too cool for that---but my daughter and her friends have a blast dressing up and going out, don't think there should be an age under 18; as long as they aren't causing trouble and are simply having fun.

            Reply#20 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:12 PM EDT

            I really think kids who are old enough to drive should not be trick or treating. That being said, as long as they are in costume, I don't begrudge kids of nearly any age a piece of candy.

            An entirely different story is something that really irritates me. People carrying around their babies- some less than 6 months old- and trick or treating for them. What is that all about? A 6 month old can't eat candy. Sometimes they're even asleep in the strollers as they walk around with them- trick or treating well into the evening with them. I find it so strange. I have two kids and while we did the rounds with our kids when they were babies to show off their cute costumes to the neighbors and friends- we did not collect candy for them, nor did we bother to go places where we didn't know anyone. Am I being scroogish? My kids didn't even start going outside of the dozen homes on our immediate street until they were school age. Babies and toddlers do not need that much candy or that extensive of a trick or treat trip!

              Reply#21 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:21 PM EDT

              i think that after the age of 13 or 14, it's time to grow up & move on.

              start thinking about a career, maybe even get a pt. time job.

              kids today have it too easy, most are lazy & worthless.

              the only things our "next generation" seems to be interested in

              is sex, drugs, & being "gangsta"!

              god help us.....

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              Reply#22 - Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:47 PM EDT

              gee yeah. a 13 or 14 year old finding a job in a down economy....hahahaha.

              Anyways, as a junior in high school I can honestly say I have fun at halloween still trick or treating or not! The ones that scowl at us after realizing how old we are just makes me laugh so hard I wanna die. So not getting candy doesnt bother me. The looks on their faces is treat enough!

              and if we're so "lazy and worhless", maybe you should be helping these "13 or 14 year olds" find a job and grow up! Who knows? maybe one of these "worthless and lazy" kids will be in charge of your social security one day, or perhaps your state-run healthcare, or even President of the United States!

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              #22.1 - Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:27 PM EDT
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              My daughter will be 24 next week, she LOVES Halloween, it is her favorite holiday. I don't think she still Trick or Treats, and will probably want to give out candy this year (1st year married), but she has always loved to dress up fantastically for Halloween and did trick or treat through high school. She used to have me drive her to a neighborhood that did have kids, because we were so isolated nobody did trick or treating. I remember as a young kid probably 4th-6th grade, going to a few houses in the neighborhood, without any costume; my mom wouldn't let us trick or treat, we had a party with candy at the small school we went to (and my parents taught at), near our house. My sisters and I would make a few quick stops on our way home (our school was just less than a block from our house, we just walked home by ourselves from the party). I'm so glad these people were nice to us; we just wanted s few peices of candy (more than we got at the party), and to feel like we were "normal" like other kids; I don't know if my mom even ever knew. I'll have to aske her! Looking back, I'm sure the neighbors knew perfectly well who we were, even though we didn't really know them (most were older folks, no kids).

                Reply#23 - Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:09 PM EDT

                dragonfish64 - "Most" are lazy and worthless? Really? How sad for you. Age or youth has little to do with motivation or worth; the same could be said about their elders, some of them. Not sure how many jobs there are out there for 13-14 year olds; adults can't find much these days.

                As for trick or treaters beyond grade school my rule of thumb is the older the kid, the smaller the candy. I turn away no one. We have many kids who are not local to our neighborhood come in their parents' cars. We average about 120 visitors each year, depending on weather, starting with little ones at dusk until maybe 9. Once the porch lights go out, that's it for the year.

                By the way my GRANDMOTHER used to dress up and trick or treat as a grown-up (long before she was a grandmother, I hasten to add) going from bar to bar with her friends. This was back in the 19-teens and 1920s (she was born in 1893.)

                  Reply#24 - Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:30 PM EDT

                  floretta, i taught my kids by showing a good work ethic example.

                  if you want a job badly enough, you will find it. by the time i was

                  15, i knew what kind of spouse,& job i would need. i met my wife

                  @ 16. i found education for my carreer/job, graduated @ 18

                  pounded the streets for work, found it, married my wife @ 20, raised

                  2 kids. now i'm 46,still with my wife,my carreer/job,(hers too),my

                  daughter got a pt. time job @ 16,@ 18 they hired her full time, now

                  @ 25, she' their most valuble employee(@ a hospital,with professional-

                  credentials!!!) my son,20, is a computer teacher @ a shcool for troubled

                  high school students . we were taught to pull our weight,& support our

                  country.

                  as a citizen,& as a parent, i've done my part!!!

                  sad for me ,no ma'm....

                    #24.1 - Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:22 AM EDT
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                    Older trick or treaters are ruining it for younger ones, as it has become impossible to tell who is the trick or treater and who is the home invasion expert.  The risk is too great, and, reluctantly, I have given up treating kids in the interest of avoding the ultimate "trick".  Sad.

                      Reply#25 - Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:04 AM EDT
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