How Mister Rogers made me a rock 'n' roll dad

 

By Benjamin Wagner

Mister Rogers summered in a modest, gray, shake-shingled house on the edge of Nantucket. My mother rented a tiny cottage next door. So Mister Rogers really was my neighbor.

I first met Mister Rogers on Sept. 4, 2001 -- my thirtieth birthday.

I was a bit lost at the time. My parent's divorce and chronic relocation left me a serial monogamist (but commitment phobe) hooked on rock ’n’ roll fantasy.  Everything would be fine, I reasoned, if I could get famous for expressing my dysfunction; it seemed to work for everyone in Rolling Stone magazine and on MTV.

So I'd moved to NYC some five years prior to either write for or be on the cover of RS. It ended up the latter (sort of), though I quickly parlayed my online Weezer reviews and Jewel interviews into a producer gig at MTV News while hocking CDs at performances in rock venues from Boston to Raleigh-Durham.

I was ambivalent about all of it, seeking something meaningful amid a fast-paced, short-attention-span mediaverse.

Which is roughly when Mister Rogers stepped toward the back porch and asked, "Is the birthday boy here?"

The next day, Mister Rogers invited us over for lemonade. I played him a song. And then he showed me around his so-called Crooked House, a sparse, almost-ascetic cottage.  Mister Rogers was so real, so authentic, and so disarming, that I felt right at home.  We sat a while in his study, out back behind the garage. There was a desk, a computer and a small piano, all with a view over the pale green grassy dunes to Madaket Bay beyond. He asked me something no one ever asks. “Tell me about your father,” he said. “Your mother doesn’t speak about him.” And so I told him about my parents’ divorce, and how ugly it was, and almost cried right there on the spot; I felt safe, and comfortable.

He said, simply, “That must have been very difficult for you, Benjamin.”

Then he rolled his chair over to the piano and began playing: first, the theme from his show: “It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood,” he sang with a little more swing than on television, smiling. And then he sang “Happy Birthday” to me. Even now, years later, it still seems like a dream.

Later, we stood on the back porch in the Indian summer sun staring out at the water. He asked me about my job at MTV. He said he was concerned about modern pop culture. “I feel so strongly," he said, "That deep and simple is far more essential than shallow and complex."

The next summer, I told Mister Rogers how often I thought about the phrase, "deep and simple." 

"Spread the message," he said.  "Spread the message."

I was immediately transformed by meeting Mister Rogers. My music changed first. I dropped the poses, stopped trying to sound hip, cool or current, and began relinquishing the death grip on my rock ’n’ roll fantasy. I embraced what came naturally, the singer/songwriter stuff I grew up on: contemplative, acoustic considerations of love lost and found.

After his death in February 2003, Mister Rogers' challenge to spread the  "deep and simple" message became too compelling to ignore. I enlisted my brother and sought out the friends and neighbors who knew Mister Rogers best to ask them what he meant by it.

In the five years it took to bring our independent documentary, "Mister Rogers & Me," to the screen (we premiered at The Nantucket Film Festival this June, and won a Crystal Heart Award at The Heartland Film Festival), I came to realize a deep, simple and essential truth: One changes the world one relationship at a time.  And -- as Mister Rogers so often said -- "There is something of yourself that you leave at every meeting with another person."

And so I took my own small measures. In 2007, I founded "A Holiday Benefit," an annual compilation CD and show featuring local singer/songwriters and benefiting 826NYC, a youth literacy advocacy group in Brooklyn.  We've raised over $10,000 since then, and will be releasing our fourth compilation on Dec. 16.

http://www.benjaminwagner.com

And when my daughter was born (just 10 days after the film's premiere), I buckled down on my most essential production of all (well second-most; impossible to top my gorgeous daughter), a new CD full of songs I wanted Maggie to grow up singing.  "Forever Young" is a lifetime in the making, not only because the cover songs ("Rainbow Connection," "You Are My Sunshine," "Moon River") are deep, simple and essential, or even because I enlisted my dearest, most-talented musician friends to help make it.

I would never have made "Forever Young" without Mister Rogers. In his absolute authenticity, he gave me the courage to be myself, to be sincere -- corny even.  With one simple question, he helped me begin to get over my parents’ divorce.  And so when my wife tapped me on the shoulder after a show, I was able to turn to greet her with an open heart.  Five years later, when I sing "Golden Slumbers" or "You've Got a Friend" to our daughter, Maggie, I realize that my definition of rock ’n’ roll was askew to begin with.  Nothing's more rock ’n’ roll than love.  And there's no greater love than this.

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I'm so glad you have done this. There was a straightforward, unapologetic kindness about his presence that was neither self-conscious nor sentimental.

    Reply#1 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:50 AM EST

    You Would Never Have Guessed

    Captain Kangaroo passed away on January 23, 2004 as age 76, which is odd, because he always looked to be 76. (DOB: 6/27/27) His death reminds us of the following story:

    Some people have been a bit offended that the actor, Lee Marvin, is buried in a grave alongside 3- and 4-star generals at Arlington National Cemetery. His marker gives his name, rank (PVT) and service (USMC). Nothing else. Here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time, why the heck does he rate burial with these guys? Well, following is the amazing answer:

    I always liked Lee Marvin, but didn't know the extent of his Corps experiences.

    In a time when many Hollywood stars served their country in the armed forces often in rear echelon posts where they were carefully protected, only to be trotted out to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions, Lee Marvin was a genuine hero. He won the Navy Cross at Iwo Jima. There is only one higher Naval award... the Medal Of Honor!

    If that is a surprising comment on the true character of the man, he credits his sergeant with an even greater show of bravery.

    Dialog from "The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson": His guest was Lee Marvin. Johnny said, "Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima ...and that during the course of that action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded."

    "Yeah, yeah... I got shot square in the bottom and they gave me the Cross for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi. Bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys getting' shot hauling you down. But, Johnny, at Iwo I served under the bravest man I ever knew... We both got the Cross the same day, but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. That dumb guy actually stood up on Red beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the hell off the beach. Bullets flying by, with mortar rounds landing everywhere and he stood there as the main target of gunfire so that he could get his men to safety. He did this on more than one occasion because his men's safety was more important than his own life.
    That Sergeant and I have been lifelong friends. When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the Sergeant and he lit a smoke and passed it to me, lying on my belly on the litter and said, "Where'd they get you Lee?" "Well Bob... if you make it home before me, tell Mom to sell the outhouse!"
    Johnny, I'm not lying, Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest man I ever knew. The Sergeant's name is Bob Keeshan. You and the world know him as Captain Kangaroo."

    On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who just passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat-proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long-sleeved sweater on TV, to cover the many tattoos on his forearm and biceps. He was a master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat

    After the war Mr. Rogers became an ordained Presbyterian minister and therefore a pacifist. Vowing to never harm another human and also dedicating the rest of his life to trying to help lead children on the right path in life. He hid away the tattoos and his past life and won our hearts with his quiet wit and charm.

    America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did; they quietly go about their day-to-day lives, doing what they do best they earned our respect
    and the freedoms that we all enjoy.
    Look around and see if you can find one of those heroes in your midst.
    Often, they are the ones you'd least suspect, but would most like to have on your side if anything ever happened


    Take the time to thank anyone that has fought for our freedom. With encouragement they could be the next Captain Kangaroo or Mr. Rogers

    Send this on, will you please? Nothing will happen to you if you don't, but you will be telling others what a HERO is made of.

      #1.1 - Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:24 PM EST

      Luis - 2679577 wrote:

      On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who just passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat-proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long-sleeved sweater on TV, to cover the many tattoos on his forearm and biceps. He was a master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat


      This is an urban legend that is not true. Fred Rogers graduated from seminary in the early 1950's and was a pioneer in children's television. He saw the power of this new medium and waned to use it to create a safe place for children.

      It was not within his soul to hurt much less kill anyone. He was a saint.

        #1.2 - Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:23 AM EST
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        About 10 years ago I traveled to Greensburg, PA to see the Dalai Lama. I love the Dalai Lama. He was introduced by Mister Rogers. When I returned home, everyone asked how it went. I said that seeing the Dalai Lama was a dream come true, but that I came away from the gathering completely in love with Fred Rogers. His introduction of the Dalai Lama touched me at the deepest core of my being...the simplicity yet profound genuiness.

          Reply#2 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:45 PM EST

          Beautiful, beautiful. I could feel the writer's awe for the simple sweetness and deep kindness of Fred Rogers. The most important message for me: Sometimes what people really need is for us to ask them the question no one else will, and then to just listen to them.

            Reply#3 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:56 PM EST

            Thank you for sharing that beautiful and inspiring story.

            You're very lucky to have met Mr. Rogers...and luckier still that his influence had such a positive and lasting effect on your life.

            But then again, that was Fred Rogers.

            I met him once when I was five, in 1973. I can't say I had the personal audience you did, but it certainly felt that way. He had a natural "goodness" about him, and a way of making you feel as though he was speaking directly to you...even if you were in a crowd.

            My own daughter is four. She'll never know a world in which Mr. Rogers lived, and that's a loss to her generation that's beyond comprehension.

            However, thanks to the magic of syndication and re-runs, his "deep and simple" messages reach out to her just as they did for me.

            As a child, I thought that a little Mr. Rogers was a great thing. As an adult, I know it.

            In my opinion, anyone looking for proof of a generous and loving God needs to look no further than the gift that was--and is--Mr. Rogers.

            And if heaven exists, rest assured that's where you'll find him.

              Reply#4 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:43 PM EST

              Dude, you so totally ROCK! As did Mr. Rogers....

                Reply#5 - Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:16 PM EST

                Mr. Rodgers ROCKS!!! You have inspired me to seek Mr. Rodgers videos to show to my own young kids. What would childhood be without him???

                  Reply#6 - Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:14 AM EST

                  I grew up watching Mr Rogers too. What a great man he was. I can't wait to see this movie! Thank you for sharing your story with us.

                    Reply#7 - Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:28 AM EST

                    Love you Mr. Rogers. You were a beautiful day in the neighborhood and you always will be. God Bless you and thank you for all you taught me and my children!!!

                      Reply#8 - Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:34 AM EST

                      He arrived on PBS when I was in college so I never had the benefit of enjoying his program as a kid but I watched my nephews wait for him and Sesame Street come on in the mornings. He truly was a simple but deep individual. Thanks for helping that generation grow up. Too bad most of our politicians of all stripes do not follow his example.

                        Reply#9 - Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:53 AM EST

                        I have very few mentors in my life....Mr. Rogers is one of them

                        Not because I met him, but in reading the books he has written and the books written about him (and of course growing up watching him on tv - he brought a sense of calm to a chaotic life growing up), I have come to know and understand him (I think).

                        I rarely follow celebrities (or people in the public eye) but I always was interested when he was "in the news".

                          Reply#10 - Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:25 AM EST

                          I believe that all of us have something to offer one another. Mr. Rogers used the platform he was given to do that, and to you personally. And now you Mr. Wagner, with your platform are doing the same, good job.

                          There is immeasurable value in each of us that can only be realized when we are given the opportunity and have the courage to share it.

                            Reply#11 - Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:08 PM EST

                            Mr. Rogers was a great Christian man and believed in those principles.

                            "Deep and Simple" reflects on the parables and teachings of Christ !

                            Interesting article:

                            http://www.christianblog.com/blog/clayonmyeyes/fred-rogers-a-real-man/

                              Reply#12 - Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:43 PM EST

                              When Mr. Rogers entered our house, the clam that his show produced seemed to permeate the whole house. My daughter loved him. I know if she were here now she would be applauding the recognition of his work and lasting influence; an influence that obviously spans many generations.

                                Reply#13 - Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:19 PM EST

                                We all need to wake up to the fact that Fred Rogers was a real saint, a holy person, one of the most important of our era, and we pretty much didn't notice during his lifetime.

                                  Reply#14 - Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:50 PM EST

                                   What a wonderful story!  I remember watching Mr. Rogers almost every afternoon while growing up.  At last a story on this site that makes me smile from deep inside!

                                    Reply#15 - Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:19 AM EST

                                    Great post Benjamin ... it's such a good example of how a loving kind word can heal a wounded heart and how when we make choices based on simple and deep we are choosing what is essential to the core of our best selves.

                                      Reply#17 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:14 AM EST
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