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Should a mom be able to breast-feed her baby inside a store?
Nursing moms descended on hundreds of Target stores around the country this week, but they weren't looking for after-Christmas deals. Nope, they came for a nurse-in: a public gathering of moms breast-feeding their babies, in support of a woman's right to nurse in public (known in some circles by the handy acronym, NIP).
Why was Target the target? Texas mom Michelle Hickman says she was hassled by several different Target employees last month when she tried to breast-feed her baby inside a Webster, Texas store. She says she was sitting in a quiet corner, using a blanket to cover up, but apparently that wasn't enough for the employees she encountered or the clueless customer service representative who allegedly told her on the phone that laws protecting women's right to breast-feed don't apply inside Target stores. (Newsflash: they do! 45 states have laws allowing women to breast-feed in public.) She complained on her Facebook page, her complaints picked up steam with the breast-feeding mom community, and a nurse-in was planned for Dec. 28. Moms from all over took part, including some TODAY Moms readers.
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The milk bar is open! Moms participate in a nurse-in at a Chicago-area Target.
"It was a great experience," Springfield, Va. mom Gwen Arredondo reported on our Facebook page. "Every employee I encountered was kind and gentle. I nursed my son as we returned some items and while checking out. The manager told our group that nursing mamas are welcome in her store and she encouraged the group." Later that day, for good measure, Arredondo said she nursed at Kohl's -- and had a good experience there, too.
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Alabama mom Hannah Ellis said she put on make-up and nice jewelry just to make sure she'd look respectable at her first ever nurse-in. Like Arredondo, she and her baby had a great experience. "I stood in front of Target's nursing bra display (OK, couldn't help it -- humor got the best of me), picked my son out of the cart and popped him neatly under my Hooter Hider," she wrote on the TODAY Moms Facebook page. "After feeding for a minute or so, I got more confident. I decided to walk past the dressing room...the employee working there was busy and didn't even notice me. I browsed through racks of clothing around the dressing room. Women shoppers browsed around me...no one said a thing or looked twice. Feeling encouraged, I decided to really put my Target to the test. I headed toward the front of the store and the main aisle in front of all the check out counters. I browsed displays, still nursing my son under my Hooter Hider. 'Good morning,' I said to a Target employee as I passed her, nursing. 'Good morning,' she replied. 'Have a great day!'"
Target executives, for their part, hopped on the public breast-feeding train. They issued a statement reiterating their support for moms who want to feed their babies while they shop. (They're no dummies -- more potential customers!)
"We continually educate our team members in stores across the country on store policies to ensure all guests have a great experience," Target wrote in a company statement. "Target has been in touch with the [Webster, Texas] store to ensure all team members are aware of our breastfeeding policy. Target is proud to support all mothers who breastfeed year-round."
But not everyone is down with NIP. On the TODAY Moms page a fierce debate raged after some commenters declared public breast-feeding to be "gross." (Real mature, guys!) But the issue isn't black-and-white. Some moms say they totally support breast-feeding, and think women should be allowed to nurse in public -- but they don't think a "nurse in" is the answer.
"To be honest I really don't care how you chose to feed your baby, that is your business not mine, but you make it my business when you and your buddies go do a sit-in," complained Monica La Fuente Ramirez. "Now I have to avoid the store because I don't want to see a bunch of women breast-feeding their babies all at once, please this is a store not a mommy play group."
As Nesie Spencer wrote, "Breastfeeding is natural. Yes that's fine. But I think making all this noise is a bit too much. I think there is only such a huge 'scandal' about it because people keep talking about it. It's like 'look at me, look at me.'"
Still other moms wondered why all the big fuss about a little baby nursing. "It's a shame that women are judging each other on here," said Hillary Prickett. "It's hard for me to believe people are offended. I see more boob on TV than I ever do [from breast-feeding moms] in public. Be discreet and everyone else get over it. Babies need to be fed. However and whenever is mom's choice and her right."
What do you think? Do you nurse in public, or support other women's right to do so? Would you ever go to a nurse-in?
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I could care less if you breast feed your children or not. And it is true that we see more body parts just watching regular tv.
BUT I do feel that if you are going to breast feed please be respectful of other people. If my husband were to go outside in our yard and pee around the corner he could get arrested for indecent exposure and have to register as a sex offender.
But women can just pull their boob out and show it to the world to breast feed.. I personally do not want to see some other womans boob while I am shopping at a store.
All I am saying is please cover up so that your boob is not just out there for the world to see. Like I said I do not care if a woman breast feeds or not. I have several friends who do. Just please be respectful.
:)
TDawg: Honey, you're in big trouble comparing feeding a baby with your hubby's tweekie. Get thyself back to Sex ed. That part of your post was stupid. The comment on respect was good and for certain, out of 1,000 women, there might be 1 who doesn't care what you or others think.
Agreed. Done discreetly I have no problem with it. Whipping it out for the world I do. Urinating & defecating (peeing & pooing for the kids out there) are also natural acts, but you wouldn't want too see me performing them indiscreetly.
Please describe (a) what breastfeeding has to do with #occupy, and (b) why #occupy is a "problem."
We live in such a prudish society. Why is it offensive for people to see people's bodies? Grow up.
I agree with TDawg. If youa re breastfeeding, iti s very disrespectful to do it in public so that it offends the next person. I think her analogy was great. if my husband whips out his private parts and pee on a tree it will be cause for disturbance. So are the ladies breastfeeding in public just to prove a point.
earthgirl:
This is an opinion. What gives you the right to talk down about my thoughts or opinions..
You need to grow up and let people have an opinion..
And maybe you need to learn to read.. I was NOT comparing a baby to a tweekie.. I was using it as an example for women who think that it is ok for them to just pull out their boob for theo world to see...
Wombat: I totally agree with you!! Done discreetly=no problem..
Thank you for letting me post my opinion..
Obviously, you didn't read the entire article. She was in a quiet corner, using a blanket to cover herself. Breastfeeding is one of the most natural, beautiful things a woman can do. Comparing it to your husband peeing is not the same at all. I wouldn't want to see a woman peeing either in public.
Two thoughts:
1. Breastfeeding your baby should be treated as an intimate act between the mother and the child like making love to a mate. To breast feed in public whether the woman covers up or not, destroys that intimacy and degrates the bonding process. Cherrish the moment by keeping it private.
2. I may be incorrect and I'm sure someone will correct me (and it's ok) if I am wrong but isn't the local Target a "privately owned" buisness? Yes you are in public but within a privately owned establishment. If a women came to my house or business, whether there were many people or no one at all inside, and whipped out her boobs to feed her child, I know I would have every right to ask her to go to her car or the bathroom. Just say'n.
Do you mind seeing a bottle,, if you don't mind the bottle then you wont mind the boob!! I nursed both my kids, and I did not care when or where. If you do not want to see it, avert your eyes, just like I do when I don't want to see something.
Wow; comparing peeing in public to breastfeeding in public...I just don't understand how some people think; I guess I never will.
Longhair: get over yourself. What gives a mom a right to breastfeed?? The law, genius, the law.
Breast feeding may be intimate. But done correctly, a child needs to be feed ATLEAST every 4 hours. Do you REALLY think a mother can be at home every 4 hours to keep the act private? Be serious!
I agree wholeheartedly about breastfeeding & breastfeeding in public. I was a mother of 2 that did breastfeed & did so in public. HOWEVER, I found nursing rooms at malls or in my car (if the weather was warm) or in a back corner away from the traffic & covered with a blanket. Kudos to the mom in TX who covered herself! I agree with TDawg-4865807, I don't want to see other peoples boobs or wee wees in public. Breastfeeding is a natural thing and is a wonderful bonding experience for mother and child. it should be done tastefully and respectfully. Don't flaunt your boob, just because your kid is hungry. Please respect others and cover it up.
I so agree with TDawg. I have zero problem with it being done discreetly, but please don't whip out your boob and flaunt it in my face! I was at a public swimming pool full of teen boys. A woman chose that time to feed her baby....with no cover. I've never seen so many tongues hanging out! Now, should those teen boys have just "gotten over it"? Remember these are the ones that are now sneaking Playboys and doing whatever they can to get a peek! Why couldn't she have covered up or gone to the locker room?
Discretion people...discretion! And TDawg...an EXCELLENT example!
I agree. I was a nursing mother for both my kids. HOWEVER, I had the sense to feed them BEFORE I went to the store so they would be content and usually sleep and I could get my shopping done. There is no reason anyone else couldn't do the same. There is a time and a place for everything. The store is a place to shop, not to feed your children. Take care of their needs first, then do your shopping.
Also, I was at a restaurant recently where a mother was nursing at the next table. She was fully exposed, didn't have her shirt or a blanket or any other covering so as to be discreet. If I walked around the same way without have a baby attached to my nipple, I would have been arrested. Not only was she fully exposed, but at one point the baby fussed and let go, and milk sprayed across the table onto my my clothing and also my plate of food! That is no less distasteful than if she had spit onto my table and my food. Both are body fluids from someone else's body. She did not apologize when I pointed it out, she laughed.
I probably didn't handle it the best - I plopped my plate of food on top of hers, said "Here, you can have your milk back", and left.
TDawg...people have the right to comment on your post however they choose-just as you have the right to post it in the first place. Relieving oneself and feeding a baby that demands to be fed NOW are hardly the same thing, genius.
Some people in America are so uptight. We are talking about our bodies. In other parts of the world people could care less. If I see some guy peeing around the corner, I could care less or see a women breast feeding her child, I am happy she is caring for her baby. I think people should care less and since it is the human body we are talking about.
A parent and US Citizen: Thank you!! That was exactly what I was trying to get across..
I have several friends that breast feed their children and do so respectivly..
That is all I am asking for:::: Respect.. (but as we can see from some of the post here.. that word is hard to come by)
Justsara: Another perfect example! Thank you.. And I probably would have done the same thing!
LS: Thank you for seeing my point!!
this...is...news?
If i wanna hear a storie about boobies I'll read playboy.
They have articles right?
So we should live trying to respect everyone? Afraid that anything we might do should offend someone and therefore "disrespect" them?
I don't agree with breast feeding in public.. it's just as nasty and someone peeing in public with or without a blanket .. keep it private .. if I see a woman breast feeding in public I will politely ask her to do that in private and if she won't stop .. I will pee in front of her and dare her to say something
ladies, keep it up, the teenage boys love it. Where will they be next? The boys want to go and see!
I just wish I'd been there to see all the boobs! But seriously.. Breast feeding is natural, they've been doing it forever and why should they stop now just because everyone likes to make a big deal out of nothing. You can't even look at someone anymore without offending them or causing a scene. People need to lighten up a bit and stop being so sensitive and easily offended.
If you don't like what Target is doing, don't go there. Instead of protesting, use your enengy to start your own store that allows breastfeeding. See how fun and easy it is.....
HaileyID and tom1985 - I guess you wont mind if I come over and take a dump on your lawn then, it's natural.
Considering that breasts specifically make milk to feed babies and that God made each of us and our bodies in perfection and in model with God (we are made in the image of God), doesn't that make it a woman's God given right to breastfeed her baby? I mean the purpose of breasts are not sexual, it is literally to nourish and provide sustenance to your child.
I am really confused why we find it gross or degrading or disrespectful.
I prefer to be modest, but I know that when I have run across women breastfeeding, even well-endowed women, who are not covered up....you actually don't see much of the breast at all. You see more in most bathing suits. Anyway, just confused why something that is so natural is so upsetting...
As far as I can tell, there is only ONE PROPER way to breast feed .... when the baby is hunger, feed. All the rest is just the sick little dance we humans have created through our own stupidity. Hmmmm, sounds like half of what we do in society!
It is important for women to breastfeed their baby. The baby receives immunity from the mother and studies have shown that brain development is better through breastfeeding. Comparing it to urinating in public is sad when it these are two completely different issues. Society still has a long way to go when it is still making mothers feel ashamed for doing what is best for the development of their child. A lot of women do nurse in public with a cover which is what the woman in the story was doing. I encourage all of my new moms to breastfeed if they can. Wouldn't you want the best for your child?
I totally thing its the same thing. When you need to go then you need to go. Why do you think there are some many bathrooms?? So people can be discreet about it. There are places that have nursing rooms or like a family bathroom where you may nurse your child. I have nothing against breast feeding but I think I have a right to do my shopping without seeing someones boob! I have a child who I breastfeed and if she was hungry while I was out then I went to my car and feed her or I brought milk with me if it was going to be and extended length of time. People need to stop making a statement about everything!!!
I agree, dubken. And what's w/ the poll question where the no option is "I'm incapable of turning my head away." I guess we know where the "journalist" that wrote this stands. I shouldn't have to turn my head away from your boob when I'm IN PUBLIC. The self-centerdness and inappropriateness of people is out of control these days. I think I'll go spend some money at Target tomorrow just to show my support for their common sense.
Contrary to what the article says, the laws of the 45 states that allow breast feeding in public do not apply here. Target is not a public place when it pertains to that type of law. It's a place open to the public to conduct business, but it is private property. Thus they can determine what activities can and can not take place on their property. They can not discriminate against you entering the store to shop based on your sex, race, color, creed, or religion, but they can dictate what activities are allowed on their private property. Target being classified as a public place only pertains to you having a right to go there to shop and conduct legitimate business in the store. If being a public place means anybody could go there to do anything they want, anytime they want, then Walmart can hire people to go inside Target and hand out Walmart fliers and Target would not be able to stop it. After all, it is a public place!! Fortunately it is not a public place, it is private property. For the scope of the law for those 45 states, a public place is parks, streets, municipal buildings, etc., not private property like a Target.
Just like your first amendment rights to free speech do not apply at the store. You can't go into the store protest something political. They can ask you to leave and if you don't, they can have you arrested for trespassing. BTW, the 1st Amendment right to free speech does not mean you can say anything you want, anytime you want, anywhere you want. It does however protect you if you speak out against your government without fear of retribution, unless in your speaking out you threaten somebody, cause a riot, physically hurt somebody or damage property.
I'm a male so I really don't care if they show their boobs, I was a breast feed baby and that is just a part of nature ......
I was so proud to be a nursing mommy! Nursed both my girls for 13 months and I would always pick a quiet corner with my cover to nurse them. To this day they have been very healthy. Amen Pedsnursepractitioner!!
To Satanick: If everyone lived their lives trying to respect others, wouldn't the world be a much better place?
In reference to all of the lunatics who consider a woman's breast to be a sex object, IT IS NOT! Man made the breast a sex object, whereas God created the breast for the same purpose as a cow's udders. The breast is for the feeding of offspring, period. It is not a man's plaything. Another point of contention is breastfeeding being considered an act of intimacy and compared to the act of making love. Please grow up! Breastfeeding is a bodily function and necessary to the survival of a human infant. Very rarely is a baby allergic to a mother's milk, but quite frequently they are allergic to processed formula. And while we are on the subject of breasts why is it legal for a man to show the whole world his chest, but not a woman? Again because man has deemed the breast to be a sex object. There is only one place I'm aware of in the USA where it is legal for women to go shirtless as a man does and that is NYC. Apparently the only city in the whole country not practicing sex discrimination.
longhair you nailed it, exactly right. tdawg you also nailed it! earthgirl, you must be about 14yrs old and think you know everything. think again! satanick, dont reproduce man, we need less people like you breathing our air! you are probably an occupy arse-hole! you have no clue how to get along in society. if you have a gun, do us all a favor and point it a your head and pull the trigger twice. the 1st one could miss!
I have no issues with women nursing in public, all I ask is that they are respectful of other people in public places. While I'm not bothered by it there are people who would be embarrassed and they must also be considered.
I love watching mothers nurse in public. But sometimes they are rude and act like dogapusses!!!!
Why would you compare a woman's chest with a man's penis? I guess with that logic you can compare a man's chest with a woman's vagina. I would think comparing a woman's chest with a man's chest would work better. If a man can show his chest, a women should be able to also. There are guys that look good with their shirts on and guys that don't - the same with women. It's just a chest, not genitalia. It will look good to some and not good to others - just like some people like feet and some people don't.
why is this an issue, being a man, i am shocked by you women. this is a natural act, how come you are not offended by some of the magazines that your sons have to watch in some of these open counters. tell your sons and daughters that this is what mothers do. i am yet to see a woman expose herself while feeding her child. wake up people and be angry about more important matters. shame on the employee that was not smart to check with his superiors first, this is sad and sick.
bohoops
So under your thinking it's perfectly legal for me to commit a murder at Target because laws do not apply there due to it being private property. You, my dear are delusional. No one gets to pick and chose which laws apply to them based on private or non-private property. Some people just don't understand what laws are all about, until they break a few. Too funny.
If it is ok to have a breast out to feed a baby, then any breast out should also be ok. A breast is a breast. Nudity is nudity. The way you are using the nudity does not matter. A boob is a boob. All or none.
Father of two perfectly healthy son who were breast feed and one who is breast feeding. Mothers do not just pop out their boobs in public, they do cover themselves and are trying to think of others. As for the Target employees who acted that way towards that one mother. If that were my wife those employees would have had one pissed off Green Beret on their asses. Grow up and get over yourselves; I don't hear this said when women wear their thongs showing outside their pants, or have their clothes so loose you can see everything. I don't hear stores making an issue of males wearing their pants so you can see their underwear or worse. Here we are talking about feeding a infant and saying it is gross?
LOL...I'm wondering if these nursing moms would be outraged by any woman who shows one of her tetas without a baby attached.
They probably think
Breast and nipple exposure with no baby = lude hoochie momma
Breast and nipple with baby suckling and smiling = a gift from nature
Ladies...you chose to give birth, you chose to be responsible and bring a child into this world, so chose to be a responsible MOTHER!!! Make sure you raise your child, feed your child, be responsible for your child in your own home!!! A responsible parent is just that...they work around thir childs schedule...The world should not have to be exploited, held responsible, and or deal with your unruly children, etc....
So stay home raise your child, be responsible and respect others!!
@ NativeSocalX
Maybe I should take some tips from you. I could go around advocating suicide and insulting others. Would I get along with society then?
Blanket=good. No blanket=bad.
Not a difficult concept as most people agree that breastfeeding is a wonderful thing. The problem is when it's used as an attention-seeking tool that I find it offensive. One woman in this article went to 2 different department stores and wandered around to different departments (all while breastfeeding, mind you) SEEKING AN EMPLOYEE REACTION!!
LOOK AT ME!!! NOTICE ME!!!!! SEE WHAT I'M DOING??!!!!!!!!
I'd have ignored her too. But for some (see JustSara's above post) ignoring them makes them go to greater lengths for attention.
Yep, I said it. Some people, both men and women, will do anything for attention, even if it's negative attention.
I gotta hop off now. Did you hear that they brought back Fear Factor? Yep, it is just about to start...
Realist, wrong, wrong, and wrong again. Target is private property. The public nursing laws do not, and cannot apply on private property. Even with all of the non- discriminatory laws, a business still has the right to refuse to serve or sell to whomever they choose. For what ever reason they choose. You would be amazed at how many bars have signs that read " whites only" or " blacks only". It is their right to choose.
Murder is a crime against society. Barring someone you do not like is not a crime, maybe bad business, but not a crime.
To Nick,
Target would have the right to ask those people dressed inappropriately (in their eyes) to leave the store also. If they didn't leave after being asked one time, they could be arrested for trespassing.
The point isn't weather breast feeding is natural or not, or bonding or not bonding. The point is that it is private property and management does not want that type of behavior (or whatever you want to call it) to take place on their property. They have that right, just like you have the right to prohibit lawful acts on your property. If you can't respect the wishes of the owner of the property, then leave and don't frequent that property again. Simple!
And for the record i am all for mothers who breastfeed their babies just do it respectfully if you cover up to do i will treat you with the respect and courtesy you have shown by being discreet. If you just flip one out there for all the world to see and i start calling friends over to have a look then don't whine because i will only be treating you with the same disrespect you have shown for yourself and the people around you
This world is insane. What, is your brain gonna melt if you see a boob? What's gonna happen? Are you gonna be ruined for life? Stupid, stupid, stupid.
How about we show some respect for the women who breastfeed their children by trying to avert our gaze or avoiding equating breasts with sexual rantasy at that moment. Legs, necks, hair, feet, shoulders are all potential sexual objects if you're in that state of mind. Grow up and get out of that state of mind if you happen to see a women breast feeding. The onus is on YOU, not the breast feeding woman. Unless you're part of the women should be in burquas because the urge to sexually pounce on an ankle is too great mentality. Give it a rest.
As for you, skysurfer, if the woman does it to attract attention with purpose of drawing attention to the ignorant policies and Victorian paranois, more power to her!
This is a really stupid world.
Have a nice day.
bohoops
Perhaps my comparison was off kilter, but please note this store's discriminatory behavior gives me the right to bring it to the attention of the shopping public. Care to notice how corporate Target did not agree with this store's behavior?
To say that it is a 'bonding' issue is a joke and an excuse to justify what you are doing. Since 'bonding' is a form of 'loving', and you believe it is a bonding issue, then you are also saying that mothers that don't breast feed will not love their babies as much, or as soon as mothers that do. You're also saying that the children will not love their mothers as much if they don't breast feed. Both statements are false. Breast feeding has nothing to do with how much either the baby or the mother will love the other. In fact in the real world, breast feeding is not as healthy for the baby. The baby is eating what goes into the mothers body. Since most people don't get the proper nutrition the baby won't get the proper nutrition. That's not even taking into account if the mother smokes, drinks, does drugs, has an STD, etc. Now if the mother eats properly and does not do anything bad for her body, then it would be safe to assume that the breast milk may be better than formula. I ask you, how many mothers eat properly, don't drink, don't smoke, don't do drugs, don't have other ailments that effect the milk, etc? I have 4 kids, the first two were breast fed the last two were not. All are loved the same by my wife and all love her back equally.
Ok, I have never commented on anything on the internet before but this whole thing is so damn annoying. I am a woman and I don't even want to see someone breastfeeding in public. Yes I get it, it's natural but so is having sex or taking a @!$%#; but you don't see anyone wanting to do that in public (well maybe in some places, but you get my point). I was at a restaurant for my anniversary the other night and there was a woman sitting at the table next to us breastfeeding-made my night super romantic let me tell ya. It's not like you have to walk 10 miles to your car if your baby is hungry, there's bathrooms, there's fitting rooms in retail shops-give me a break. These women need to get over themselves and keep a private "natural" act, private.
I wonder what would happen if all bottles were banned, and all women had no choice but to breastfeed their babies? AND it became the "norm". There is nothing "dirty" about a nursing child, it is how babies are meant to be fed. Also I have never seen any woman "just whip out her breast" to feed. They have always covered with some type of blanket, and to be honest, I dont think it would even bother me if they did, it's the natural way a baby should be fed and there is NOTHING dirty or sexual about it and anyone that thinks it is sexul or dirty, really, seriously? Does it bother you to see a dog or cat nursing their litters? Its the same thing, only a human, and nothing at all wrong with it. I truly think anyone that is offended by it, has some serious sexual hang ups. Just my opinion. These mothers are not trying to be sexual, or sexy in any way shape or form. And they person that said its just as intimate as having sex with your mate - ha, pretty warped if you ask me - HUGE DIFFERENCE.
Idontwanttoseeit: Breastfeeding a child is providing the most complete and healthy nutrition for an infant that depends on you for survival. This has NOTHING to do with sex. This is the real issue. The breast has been so sexualized in the US (implants, push up bras, showing tons of cleavage) that people stop wondering what the actual purpose of a breast is. If people stopped acting like it is such a big deal than it wouldn't be!
Winter: Please .....breastfeeding your child is the responsible thing to do. Staying in your home the entire first year of an infants life....really? Do you have a family, a wife/husband, friends? Your suggestion is laughable. You chose to have children ...now stay home....really? People are so strange.
@AP-1414066
Breast feeding laws enable women to feed in PUBLIC. Target is a PRIVATE company and can make whatever rules they want genius.
What the fcku is with people these days? Why can't Target do whatever they want? If you don't like it, don't shop there. It's their loss right? We all HATE to be told what to do; so why do so may of us feel we have the God given right to tell others what they should do?
Hey Shut Yer Yap if women don't want to be objectified they will be respectful and discreet its not like we want them to wear muslim garb we just or should i say i as a man feel that women sould show the respect that they expect to recieve you are the type of woman who always stirs up trouble then runs off to hide in a closet somewhere while someone else fights over the things you started for no other reason the to be contrary to everyone else you are the worse kind of person no stand on anything and trouble to boot almost every women will agree that its not an issue of the women who disrespect themselves but it is an issue of the women who want to feed their children and do it properly and discreetly you are just a trouble maker and it probably irks you that no one wants to look at your breast so you think you should be allowed to just go around flipping it to everyone you feel you want to flip it at have some respect for yourself and for gods sake don't compare yourself with women who deserve respect and don't act like the world is their personal strip club and you are right
This is a really stupid world. You Proved that when you posted your stupidity to this thread
IDONTWANTTOSEEIT..
Perhaps I don't want to see your ugly mug in public. Should I demand that you cover your hairy mold-ridden face?
Have a nice day.
Hey Roscoe. What the heck did you just rant about, ignoramus?
How the hell would YOU know what's stupid, or not? You need a brain to make that determination.
People who objectify women don't need a boob to do it, you objuse embarrassment. Women who refuse to have their breasts objectified by knuckle-dragging halfwits might very well express it by performing the most natural and most important function with them-feeding their children. But, apparently, dimwits like you are incapable of escaping their conditioning and continue on with the, "Don't offend me with your normalness" path and pollute this board with your prudish blathering.
Suck an egg, halfwit.
Have a nice day:)
First of all, to anyone saying that breastfeeding is "beautiful," this is completely subjective. I am a woman, and I don't really find it beautiful at all. Natural, yes...beautiful, no. That's my opinion.
Second, the comparison of cleavage to breastfeeding is silly as I don't really think it's the image of the breast that some have a complaint about. It's not just a breast--it's another person (albeit a baby) sucking on a breast. Regardless of the "nature" of it, it's completely different from cleavage.
I have been in several very awkward public situations where I have been seated next to women breastfeeding their babies, and it's not necessarily the sight that I find inappropriate--it's the suckling sound and the fact that there's this very personal, intimate thing going on right next to me.
My sis has several children and, when in public, she has always either went to the restroom or out to the car to breastfeed. Sure it may be inconvenient, but it's also considerate....
Backcountry.
Target is a private company that operates in the public domain. It does NOT have the right to do,"what ever it wants to do." Do a little research before spouting libertarian nonsense.
Last time I checked, a woman's breast is a privately owned thing, too. Why can't she, then, do what ever the hell she wants to do?
Didn't think it through, did you?
Have a nice day.
@shut yer yap
Could you do us all a favor and post a link to the list of things you've decided how people should feel about. That way we won't have to worry about upsetting you any further; hate to see you have a stroke. Thanks.
No shirt, no shoes, no service, Target can do whatever they want dip@!$%#.
Waste.
If you're a woman and don't find breast feeding beautiful, there's something wrong with you. Just saying.
Try giving birth and being unable to produce enough milk for your baby and talk to me then about how it's not a beautiful thing.
Shame on you for being so selfish as to put your shallow preferences before the care of a child.
Grow up.
Have a nice day.
I don't understand why its such a big deal. I am a mother of 4 girls. My youngest only being 3 1/2 months old. I have breastfed everyone of my kids. I have a extremely close bond with all of them, and I have done the research on breastfeeding compared to bottles. Newsflash kids that are breastfed are healthier than those that were't. God gave women boobs for that purpose. So everyone that don't like it get over yourself. Way to go mom's that breastfeed!!!!
btw if a woman cannot breastfeed in public then a fat man should always wear a shirt! MEN HAVE BOOBS TOO!!!!!!! don't matter if they're skinny or fat they still have boobs! why do you think men get breast cancer? because they have boobs! idiots. anyway, when i have children i'll choose to breastfeed. but, if i need to feed my child in a public place, i will cover myself up because that's what i'm comfortable with. to each her own. as to JUSTSARA it was disrespectful of that woman to not at least apologize to you. i would have done the same thing you did. and in a restaraunt setting it would be wise and polite to cover-up. people are eating. but, in a store, where you are not eating, i say to each her own up to a point. as to anyone with a child who asks while seeing one of these women, politely tell him/her that what the person is doing is feeding her baby and tell him/her it is polite to quietly leave her alone. besides, this is the one reason most women don't breastfeed. this bigotry makes it seeem like an inconvenience. there should be more public awareness about it. and, i presume many breastfeeding mothers would agree.
ROTFLMAO!! "Thinking" is clearly not your strong suit.
I was at the mall the other day with a couple friends, and a woman sat down next to where we were standing and undid her blouse, lifted her tit out and started feeding her kid...! We stood there, looking with no expression and saying nothing, and she immediately wrinkled up her face, and asked us..."do you mind"...? Me and my friends said ..."no... we don't"...
So she sat there with us watching, and then said again..."do you mind"?.... And we again told her that we didn't, and she told me to look away then and give her some privacy...! I laughed and said... check out your f— _king surroundings dolt...! You are sitting in the middle of the mall...! There is no privacy when you are in PUBLIC !!!
She called on someone to call the police, and when the mall security came over, even they asked her to cover up a little, and she said that we were perverts and wasn't giving her any privacy...
The security said the same thing as I did... and told her if she wanted some privacy, she wouldn't be sitting in the middle of the mall with her breast hanging out more than what is necessary to breast feed, and said we were not doing anything against the law, and therefore they weren't going to tell us to do anything because we weren't doing anything wrong. She said that we were watching, and the woman security guard laughed and said... "do you not notice NOW, about two hundred people have now stopped... and who are NOW watching us here at this moment... what do you want us to do, tell everyone to leave the mall because you want to feed in privacy..?"
She claimed that that there was a law to protect her while she was feeding, and the guards said that there is no law against watching, and if she didn't want to be watched, she should not present herself in a situation to be watched. They said her safety wasn't in jeopardy, and walked away.
They did stay within eye shot though....
Her husband came over, and in a really loud tone, he told us to look away and give them some privacy and when I told him to get f'd, mall security to come back over, and the husband got arrested for assault when he punched the security guard... and there we stood... we still hadn't done anything wrong... The woman put her tit back in and as they carried her screaming and kicking little husband away in cuffs, she looked at us and asked us..."now see what you perverts did"...? The cops told her that we did nothing wrong, and that if she didn't want to go to jail too, to stop talking....
We laughed and told her to come back soon when she wanted to feed again... and to bring her husband with... together they were quite entertaining...!
Well said waste. I agree totally. There are so many personal and private areas we debate now adays. Why? Why do some peoples kids lack respect, commonsense, manners or morals?
The bottom line for this is... if your child is hungry, feed him/her. It's up to the mother on the way of feeding her child. If she chooses to breastfed that's great, her baby is going to grow up healthy and strong and have a great immune system (not to say that a formula-fed baby won't be.) As long as the breastfeeding mom covers up everything is fine. But, I have yet to see a woman let everything hang out for the world to see while breastfeeding. I think it was a great thing these women did here, regardless if it was legal or not, attention grabbing or not, and arguable or not. Another thing, why do people get so off topic on these things: I mean the occupy movement, finding jobs, and legal issues... that's hardly what the article was about.
@Shawnna Youngblut
I agree with what you've said but people are getting sidetracked by what is really the issue here. The last time I was in a Target store they still had restrooms and dressing rooms. This was all started by a woman who didn't want to inconvenience herself so she decided that everyone else could piss off.
I think people who get offended by breast feeding are morons but who the hell am I to tell them how they should think? People who do that are FAR worse, just look at shut yer yap if you doubt that.
This is the stupidest debate ever. They are boobs. In women, they are made to feed babies. That is their primary biological function. All other functions are seconadary. Feeding an infant is not the same as relieving oneself. That being said, I would feel no more disgust from watching a woman pee than watching a man pee, and fair being fair, I think it should be just as acceptable to see lady-boobs as to see man-boobs. Considering women's naked breasts to be indecent is nothing more than gender discrimination.
Bohoops, I am guessing you must be a pretty old dude. Your information is antiquated, and simply not factually correct. If formula were better for babies than breastmilk, then nature/God would have designed it so that breasts produced formula, not breastmilk. Go figure. Babies who are breastfed have higher IQs on average than formula-fed babies, by some 5 to 15 points. Babies who are breastfed are less sickly than formula-fed infants, due to the immunities they recieve from their mother. Babies who are breastfed have less chance of growing up to be obese as adults. Some of the main components of formula are cow or soy milk, and vegetable oil. Cow milk is very good, for baby cows. Doesn't it stand to reason that person milk would be better for, you know, persons? Some formulas have been found to contain melamine, a chemical used to make plastics, others have been found to contain perchlorate, a chemical found in rocket fuel. BPA, a chemical commonly found in certain plastics, which can affect the brain and reproductive systems of humans, has also been found in certain baby formulas. Personally, I would worry more about the melamine, perchlorate, and BPA in formula, than about whatever might be passed through breastmilk due to something the mother has ingested. And regarding your question: How many mothers eat properly, don't drink, don't smoke, and don't do drugs while breastfeeding? Damn near every one I've ever met.
earthgirl:: You have NO BUSINESS saying anything about respect! Oh, we are to respect the mom's right to breastfeed in public-- their floppy breasts exposed to the public-- yet they have NO respect for other shoppers? Yes, go ahead and do it, but have some respect for others and COVER UP those floppy boobs.
Bet those women weren't taking a break from shopping-- they were there just to show off their floppy boobs.
In order to GET RESPECT you must GIVE RESPECT-- and none of those broads earned my respect!
Like i said Shut Yer Yap you have no idea whats going on and you are trying to start trouble where there is non you are a brainless moron and need to go back to your closet or call a forklift to take you to the kitichin table you are late for your nightly feeding i just heard them pouring the slop for the swine
and Satan if there is 3 people out there for every one job maybe you should realise that higher business taxes will drive more jobs out of our country and there are jobs out there you just don't want to do those jobs you feel they are below your standerds and anyone can cut wood to sell for fire wood its called self employment there are many ways people can legally make money if they try but the problem is people have become to soft and complacent with getting it from costco or ralphs and having foodstamps but when the 99% push the rest of the jobs out of the US and their really are no more jobs because fools like you are to lazy to work and just want to live off the system then you can go around and tell people i helped bring america to its knees because i was stupid meaning you satanic to go out and work what i really find funny is mexicans cannot even speak english are making a living here in america where you say their is no jobs but you will just complain and not go out and take one of those jobs hey i have an Idea for you Satanic GO OCCUPY A JOB and Shut Yer Yap Please just do that SHUT YER YAP we don't want to hear from non understanding swine like you because all i said was show respect get respect but that was too hard for you too understand
Backcountry.
It's not my job to post links to everything I post. Not my job to educate morons like you.
It is, however, my complete joy to firmly put idiots like you in check. No stroke in site.
If I wanted to cause YOU to have one, though, I'd but to have my wife breast feed our child in your presence. Apparently, the site of one is enough to to cause you to have a brain aneurism or something.
Dopes like you are such products of their conditioning, that there's no reasoning with them. A breast is meant to feed a child. A breast is meant to feed a child. Getting it, dipstick?
Next thread you'll be telling us how you're so much more advanced than the burqua enforcers in Aghanistan. Don't come to a mental joust unarmed dingbat.
Keep your backwoods logic in the backcountry, Backcountry.
Mental imp.
Have a nice day.
Pednurse:: Not a dam person is saying that a mom shouldn't breastfeed her baby. BUT they are saying that the moms should respect others. If they are out in public-- and a store where people are shopping is public-- they should have the decency to toss a blanket or somesuch item over the show. All they are doing is showing off their floppy boobs in public-- and they want respect. HA-- to get respect you must give it and they were NOT showing any respect.
And YOU don't seem to care about showing respect to people who might be shopping and didn't want to see the public display of broads with brats and boobs.
i hafta agree with SHUT YER YAP. a breast is meant for feeding one's offspring just like teets on dogs and cats are meant for puppies and kittens (some cats and dogs use them to feed other baby animals as well). do you see a male dog or cat going around treating a female cat or dog's teets like sex objects as apparently most male humans do? ANSWER: NNNNNOOOOOOOO! so why do we? native american (the indiginous people of the americas) women never wore shirts in summer, on account of the heat white men even recorded this, and they publicly fed their babies. the idea that the breast is a sex object is a WHITE MAN'S idea! i'm not of a single race, but one of them is white the other is native american so i am not racially biased. this is based on research i've done and continue to do.
Roscoe.
I'll get back to you when I dicipher your last post.
..still trying to figure it out.
Sorry. I'm not at all fluent in bunker-ese. Give me a few.
Susie.
You're an embarassment.
What's your next post about?
How a father, who hurriedly pulls down his two-year-old son's pants next to a tree in order to facilitate an emergency barthroom break, is immoral for not letting him pee himself or injure his kidneys in order to appease those who lack the ability to suspend their moral judgment against any and all exposed flesh?
You and the rest of the bozos on this board, like Backcountry and Roscoe, need your heads examined.
Sazsha:: Guess you are one of those that doesn't respect others-- it is all for YOU and to heck with others. You can feed your brats as much as you want, but respect others when you do it. That is why they made baby blankets and throws. Show some RESPECT for others, or is that impossible for you to do.
Why is it necessary to breastfeed in front of people? It's not like the child is going to die if you give them a bottle full of milk when you go out instead? I don't want to see some women's breast being sucked on by a child. I also don't think it's good for kids or younger people to be exposed to that, I mean who's to say an 8 year old might think that's what she's supposed to do and starts exposing herself while at school or something?
The fact that you are biracial does not automatically make you unbiased. Saying something is "White Man's" doing, does however.
i am all for titties in public gives me more ammo for the spank bank, if they have no shame about breast feeding in public they wont mind my thinking of them in a warm and sunny fashion.
Yes, women were given boobs to feed their babies; however, society has focused on them more as "sex objects" than breasts for feeding. Don't believe it? Look at all the boob-showing ads selling anything from underwear to cars! Nobody is saying a woman should not breast feed... we are all intelligent enough to know that is what is healthiest for the babies. What we are saying is that I don't think the place to do it is inside a shop in front of everybody and his brother! Plan better... pump your milk and put it in a bottle if you think the baby will get hungry while you are out... go to the restroom... go to the car. The little nurse-in at Target sounds like a bunch of women just wanting attention... to their boobs no less! I just love those telling how they "checked out" and "stood in line" with their boobs out... so much for finding a nice corner and doing it discreetly. Just more of the "in your face, I will not show respect for you or me" attitude that is so prevalent in our society today. Go home and take care of your babies or at least go to the car or a corner... I'm not talking about the original lady who was badly treated at Target, I am talking about all the trouble makers who went to Target to walk around with their boobs hanging out just to get attention and try to cause trouble. I don't want to see your ugly swollen vein-popping boobs and from the looks of this blog, most other folks don't want to either! I had 4 kids and breast fed them all... not once in public and it didn't hurt me nor my children and I didn't "sacrifice" my life in order to do that.
How about this: Your 13-year-old sons teacher has chosen to only breast feed her newborn. During class, she picks up her child, exposes her breast and feeds him while discussing the finer points of American history. I assure you it will have an effect on every single student in the class...especially pubescent boys. Our pal eric1964 in his post 1.88 just proved that. I bet his stack of National Geographic is at least 2 feet high.
I can say all day long that I agree when someone says breast feeding is natural, bla-bla-bla. It doesn't bother me when it's discreet. But the key word is discreet. Strolling around a department store with an exposed breast really isn't discreet, nor is it an appropriate venue. Just because there is a child attached doesn't make it more appropriate. One may as well have a husband attached. That can be construed as a natural and loving act.
So please, just throw a blanket over the whole thing and everyone is happy.
Nursing a baby is Natural. Do not compare breastfeeding to urinating in public; to do so is utterly STUPID, and is Indefensible. That is all that needs to be said on the issue.
No, wait.... for all the sociologically mal-programmed individuals who have a problem with the natural & essential need for breatfeeding -- here is a video that will REALLY get your panties in a wad. Enjoy, for you have thought this eventuality into your existence.
What everyone seems to be missing is the fact that the woman in the original article was covered and in a corner, not out in the middle of the store with everything exposed. Very few woman actually "whip them out" without giving some kind of consideration for others around them. Although, there are those few who don't coverup and don't care who's around. But this number is a lot smaller than people are making it out to be
sjm - ask any flight attendant giving the safety demo at the row 5 bulk-head how many boobs they've seen whupped out by nursing mothers. If I had a dollar for every time I had to deal with that display... They could have had a stack of blankets in front them and still preferred to remain fully exposed.
I am a mother of 3. There were a few instances in which I was in public and found it necessary to nurse my babies. In all of those situations I took myself to my car even when that meant missing out on a dinner with friends at a restaurant. I do not believe that women should subject the people around them to the uncomfortableness of breastfeeding. I am a woman and am offended that other women would try to make me feel bad for being so discreet. Breastfeeding is a natural and beautiful act just as sex is a very natural and beautiful act (within the confines of marriage)but do I want people doing it in front of me...NO!
I have absolutely no problem with breast feeding personally. However, as long as the Double Standard applies, I'll stand beside the people that are against being allowed to nurse in public. The person speaking about their husband dropping trow and taking a whiz has it right on the money. If your breasts aren't evil, then my d!ck isn't the devil. I'd be just as happy nixing all these laws requiring clothes at all, and for sex to stop being looked at as some evil act of death and doom. Then again, I'm expecting rationalization from human beings, rather than emotional knee jerks and brainwashing. Sigh.
Why exactly can't these women go to the restroom when they need to feed? Is it really too much to ask? Sure, breastfeeding is natural ... so is taking a dump. We don't stroll around the store aisles doing that, now do we? ... well some do ... Sex is also natural. Can't do that in a store. Some of these women really need to learn respect. Most already do, but according to the article, some don't.
would have made for a good gimik if it were staged.... puts them in the spotlight...and got more customers.
on the breast feeding in public thing.. i respect the right to feed your child. however... it is beyond obvious, some people, a lot of people, prefer if it were done in a manner as not to draw attention to yourself. yes i have seen a nursing mom, right in front of me reveal herself to me as i walked by and smiled. thing is, some people DONT want to deal with having to see it. You want the respect to not have to wait till you are at home, it would only be common courtesy to respect the rights of others as well. unless its black friday, there is always a place in any store to be a bit more private with your child, as the moment should be. It is your life, and your childs to be intimate, not the rest of us. i realise things can not be helped. This lady was hassled, i will agree with that no doubt. But she was also trying to be discreet, so i dont HAVE a problem, as i think almost everyone would agree with wouldnt care either.
I totally agree wtih ChrisfromOregon!!!! why the hell cant they do it in the bathroom??? the stores already supply woman with dressing tables in the restrooms, so why not a nursing chair, etc. i'm a woman, and i dont wana see another woman pop her boob out in public, even with a blanket covering her. Granted it is a necessity to feed your child, just like it is to poop, pee, shave, shower, change a tampon, have sex, BUT THAT DOESNT MAKE IT OKAY TO DO IN PUBLIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is it really going to just ruin yur dam lives to go into the restroom to breastfeed??????
You guys supporting Target are morons. Did you not read the article? Target stated it SUPPORTS nursing mothers and educated the store in question on its policies. BTW regardless if it is provate property state & federal laws apply, sorry you are mistaken about them not applying. Breast-feeding is not a big deal, what a bunch of whiners you all are. Most women cover themselves when feeding and if they are unable to and the baby is hungry then to damn bad. I breastfed my child in public, granted I used a blanket or my sling to cover her but had I not had something I would have fed her regardless. Yes it would be your right to say something but I would have handily sent you on your merry way and if a store said something to me, well my attorney would have a blast with them. Breastfeeding is natural, it's my guess those of you complaining were a) Probably breast fed as a child and b) childless yourselves. Get a grip.
Furthermore Susie...I've never seen a nursing mother with what you refer to as "floppy boobies". Mothers producing milk actually have quite full and firm breasts from milk engorgment and production. Clearly you have no children.
It's Target! They have dressing rooms. Maybe the woman could've nursed privately and more discreetly in there. Just saying. I am a mother of 2 breastfed kids and I personally chose to do it discreetly and if I needed to feed my baby while shopping in a store I found a dressing room. It was usually quieter and definitely more private. I'd mention to a sales associate that I would be in there for a while nursing my baby and it was never an issue. I believe in breastfeeding 100%, but I don't believe everyone has to or needs to see me do it. However, if I was in a place without a discreet place to nurse I would often ask someone if they had a private place I could nurse and more often than not they did and were very accomodating. Just so you know... I was one to work around my kids schedule, but it isn't possible to do that 100% of the time.
Ok, I'm a bit confused. Do ALL breastfeeding mothers stay home with their kids during breastfeeding? Or do they work outside the home? My sister-in-law worked. She expressed milk and gave it to the daycare provider to use during the day. When we'd go shopping, she'd have a bottle or two to ensure my niece had something to eat. Can't this be done?
As for those who say women don't "whip it out" and show off their boobs, well, then I'm sorry, you just haven't been everywhere. I can't tell you the number of places I've been and seen someone pull out their breast and feed their baby with NO cover. I don't have a problem with you feeding your child in public, just use a cover! Please! Discretion people!!
ok, so i took the time to actually read this entire page.
one issue, if you all can say breast why cant you say penis? i mean we are all adults on this page and everyone shold be able to use actually biological terms to talk about the human body.
second issue, the teen boys comment about them actually wanting to see the real thing up close. umm, im pretty sure that is the way of most teen boys, straight ones anyways. (I say that because I myself am a gay man.)
third issue, there shouldnt be any issue with breastfeeding in public. sure it would be nice and definitely more respectful of people around you if you at least try to be discreet about it. the woman in the article was being discreet, she covered hereself and was in the cornor away from the flow of shoppers.
fourth issue, comparing breast feeding to urinating is laughable. one is a release of nutrients that will sustain the life of a child, while the other is a release of waste that the body no longer needs. the reason for bathrooms is not really for the privacy, if it were they wouldnt have invented urinals. a bathroom is meant to be a place to deposit human waste so it can be collected and sent through a sanitation system to prevent diseases.
fifth issue, if you want to talk respect, you really shouldnt be paying much attention to a woman's breasts unless you happen to be admiring them. lol. i always thought it respectful to look at people in the eyes. i mean, if you are an actual adult, looking someone if the eyes rather than at their chest, whether that person is fully clothed or completely naked, shouldnt bea problem.
sixth issue, if you are worried that public nudity will negatively effect your children, them being under the age of 5, it really wont. most kids wont even pay much attention, and will only have a negative responce if someone makes it a negative experience for them. by the way, face it parents, probably by the age of 8 your children will have seen exposed body parts on tv, in a movie, in a video game or on the internet. best thing you can do is educate them. teach them about it. let them know what is happening. you may be surprised as to how much they can actually understand.
seventh issue, if you are a total prude and have no desire to ever see exposed human body parts outside of your own and possibly your partners (though if you were that much of a prude you probably have nocternal activities in the dark) you should just stay at home and never turn on a tv or go online.
lastly, if you actually read the article, you would realize that Target had no problem with breast feeding. it was the fault of some ignorant and rude employees in a single Texas Target store. They may be a privately owned business, but they are one of the most ethically sound.
thank you for reading this, if you have any comments feel free to reply.
@shut yer yap
Actually I have no problem with breast feeding as I've mentioned in a post above. What I have a problem with is d-bag loserslike you who whine and cry like babies whenever they don't get their way. "Boo hoo, you're all such meanies for not agreeing with me even though a chimp would know I was wrong so I'm just going to rant and rave and call everyone names waaaaaa"
Since you brought her up, the one exception I might make would be YOUR wife however. I have no clue what kind of woman would marry such a douche but I'm fairly certain I wouldn't want to see her breast. In fact that burqa you were mentioning might be warranted in this case. LOL!
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nativesocalX, you're suspended for a week for violating #1 of the Code of Honor. Don't ever encourage suicide.
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shut yer yap, you're suspended for a week for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
Of course that would be the easy answer and the conscientious thing to do. Unfortunately that would eliminate the "hey, look at me!" factor and wouldn't give the righteous anything to feign indignation about.
Waste- During a gallery tour at a museum, a mother decided to breastfeed her baby without covering herself. The tour guide was thrown off. Not only did the guide look uncomfortable having facing the breastfeeding mother and the rest of the tour while speaking, the baby's sucking sounds were also distracting. I agree, most of the mothers are discrete, but others can make people uncomfortable
Breast feed all you want in public but cover up.
1) You're asking for trouble and I don't necessarily mean the "Target" kind. I'm talking far worse.
2) Not all boobs are beautiful and it may be the equivalent of walking into the kitchen and seeing the plumber's azz crack.
Just sayin'.....
Backcountry.
You're the only ones crying and whining when you don't get your way.
I'm standing up for a woman who is trying to nurse her child.
You're whining and crying 'cause you don't want to see something. Wah, Wah! I saw a bweast! I saw almost half a bewbie! That hungry child and her exhibitionist mother caused me to lose and eye and have heart palpitations, they did!
Make 'em stop it. PWEEZE!?
Lol.
You don't even know why you're doing it. That's the pathetic part. You're just knee-jerking and committing brain flatulence.
Have a nice day.
Yes, good job mummies...
@brain-2104436: Most babies need to be feed every four hours. Are you home every four hours of everyday? I breastfeed both of my babies and I can say for a fact that it is not always an option to feed from home. Do you ever eat take out? Why not wait until you get home next time to eat.
And for those who say that a woman should go into a public restroom and feed. Do you eat in a public restroom? Would you feed you child in one? No, that would be gross. You all need to grow up. If the mom is being discreet and using a cover up, I don't see the problem. No she shouldn't be whipping her breast out for all to see, but most woman don't do that.This shouldn't even be an issue. Her baby was hungry, she was being a good mom and feeding it. I would love to hear your opinon if she had made her baby wait an hour or two to feed it. Then she would have been a bad mom and you all would be complaining abotu listening to a crying baby while shopping.
I'm a middle-aged guy, and i've NEVER taken a sack lunch into any toilet stall or dressing room to eet lunch; I've never even continued chewing on a sammich nor chugged a soda that was started from another room into a bathroom, anywhere... ever.
American's social programming is SO HOPELESSLY MESSED UP, that there are this many people on our NewsVine, as a sample of our population, who think it is NOT OK to breastfeed a baby in public. Baby eats EVERY 4 HOURS regardless of location or sense of convenience, and Momma has to sometimes be places other than at Home.
BreastFeeding is as Natural as breathing at this stage of Life. I pity those people, posing as adults, who conjure up all these idiotic, non-sequitor comparisons to BreastFeeding.
Since I can remember, Every time I see a Mom breastfeeding somewhere, I smile a respectful smile; I walk on past, and as I do so I recite my 2-word prayer: "healthy Baby". It is High Time to put your mind within the Point Of View of the little Baby when it is their Feeding Time. It is High Time to grow up, "adults".
Why can't they feed at home? Why does it have to be a political issue?
I think its a great idea sort of a tits for tots campaign. Should combine it with w.o.w. and sounds like a sure hit. Targets really needs to stay abreast of the times.
As a mom who nursed, I can honestly say feeding at home is not always an option. I was always a little uncomfortable having to nurse outside of my house, but many times it was unavoidable. A baby needs to nurse VERY frequently. Unless you literally never need to leave your house, there are going to be times when your baby needs to eat when you are out in public.
Erin is right on, babies need to nurse every 2 to 3 hours, sometimes more than that if they are going through a growth spurt and considering a newborn nurses for 40 minutes you are realistically looking at much less time in between feedings. You would never be able to leave your house with that schedule.
I nursed my son and I was uncomfortable nursing in public, but it was such a pain having to plan everything - dinners out, shopping trips, etc around his feedings. I wish more stores offered nursing areas like Babies 'R Us and Macy's, they have nursing areas near their restrooms, which is awesome!
I agree with Brian, This Country was made to have morals, Why would anyone want to show their
breast to everyone. Nurse at home where Mothers have done it for years. Have some morals to
bring your children up on, that is what is wrong with the world today; NO MORALS
BC I have to say morals has nothing to do with it and No women didn't always nurse at home. They actually went out visiting with friends and nursed in other peoples homes with no one thinking twice about it. Maybe you should do some research on 19th and 20th century child raising and how mothers actually have operated over the last couple of hundred years or so. We as women are doing what comes naturally with having children. Society as whole has become prudish about something as natural as breast feeding in public but are tolerant of homosexual behavior. Maybe some people need to get thier heads out of thier behinds before they speak. Hell we have art up in our museums that depict bare breasted woman in groups and that's fine but a woman who was actually 'discreetly feeding' her child is an abomination to our society. Sounds like the good Lord needs to clear the land and start from scratch again.
Cynthia
I believe you hit the nail directly on the head with the first swing. Kudos.
Brian newborns nurse every 2-3 hours. That would mean that new mothers never get to leave home. Not very practical or logical
Yes but this isn't a story about women who were "out in public". It's a story about women who were in a PRIVATE store. Sorry folks but it is NOT the same thing. Target has every right to make rules about what people can do in their stores.
Target does not have the right to do any such thing.
Don't "Sorry" me, Backcountry.
And, PULEEZE.
You know you'll be on the opposite side if Target decided to put a Holiday tree in their store.
Give it a rest. Target doesn't have the right to infringe on the personal rights of anyone.
Backcountry: Target supported the breastfeeding women and stated that they would provide further education to the employees....so it really doesn't matter.
ROTFLMAO!!! Personal RIGHTS?!?! Target has the same rights as anyone else. There is no law that says they can't ban women from exposing their breast just like they can ban people from entering the store without shoes or a shirt. Please get a clue!
shut yer yap:: And a bunch of disrespectful broads don't have the right to infringe on the rights of others to enjoy shopping. It would have been EASY to throw a blanket over the nursing process-- and people wanting to enjoy shopping wouldn't have been met by a bunch of disrespectful broads with floppy boobs.
You'd have loved seeing a bunch of broads sitting around with their boobs flopping-- maybe one of them would have given you a taste.
Hey Bohoops
The first amendment states this: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for the redress of grievances." So tell me where in that is it against any law for freedom of speech???? learn your amendment before you state it... There is however a difference between speaking and handing out flyers!!!! DUHH!!!!!
By the way, Read the sign on target doors: NO SHIRT NO SHOES NO SERVICE!!!! NO ANIMALS ALLOWED UNLESS THEY ARE SERVICE DOGS!!!!
Did I miss the sign that says NO BREASTFEEDING MOTHERS ALLOWED!!!! HELL TO THE NO BECAUSE OF THE LAW THAT ALLOWS WOMEN TO BREASTFEED IN PUBLIC!!!!
THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE A LAWSUIT FOR DISCRIMMINATION BECAUSE THEY ARE DISCRIMMINATING AGAINST MY LEGAL RIGHT TO BREASTFEED!!!!!
DUHHHHHHHHH!!!!! GROW THE BRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shawnna:: Where does it say that a mother can bare her boob and feed her baby out in public without covering up? Oh that is right-- you disrespectful broads think you have the rights to disrespect people who just might not want to see a bunch of broads with boobs. COVER UP!!!!!
You can feed your kid, but cover up-- then you can sit on the park bench and do it in public.
Maybe you'll be happy to see the sign NO BREASTFEEDING IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT.
I'd rather see a respectful service dog than a bunch of disrespectful bare-boobed broads.
I wasn't aware that target is part of congress...
Oh wait, they aren't. The constitution states what government can and cannot do, it doesn't apply to target.
But Target does have the right to tell you to cover up! They're not saying you can't feed your child. They're asking you to cover up or go someplace private. Target has dressing rooms. With chairs! Can't those be used???
Cynthia- Most women in the U.S. in the 1700s and 1800s lived in rural areas. They would work at their own home or farm and would have less of a need to go to the market or other public places. There was definitely less public breastfeeding then.
BC Dennison:
..."Have some morals to
bring your children up on"...
We DO have morals. Our morals teach us to place the nutrition and health of a child ABOVE the petty nattering of the ignorant masses.
Sounds like the height of morality to me. Leaps and bounds above sending a mom to a dirty bathroom to feed her infant, don't you think?
Maybe you need a paradigm shift?
p.s.
My honor code tells me it's not ok to let slide denegrating remarks about whole groups of people at the expense of personally insulting a couple of Newsvine posters.
Just saying. Much better honor code.
Have a nice day.
shut yer yap::: What ignorant masses? Oh, you would like it if stores put a bunch of half-naked nursing mothers in the window so people could see how nutritious a meal you are making for your child. You don't care about anybody but yourself, do you. Maybe the "ignorant masses" just don't like to see a bunch of exhibitionists on parade.
All you care about are YOUR morals and YOUR rights. And to heck with others' morals and rights.
It WOULD be a nice day if some people would consider other peoples' rights.
Susie.
Let's review....
It's me who only cares bout My morals and My rights, correct?
It's not the ones who claim to have the market cornered on Morals and Rights, right?
See, people like you first spew nonsense about Having morals by disallowing a mother to breastfeed her child, then when a person like me speaks up to defend against your ignorance, you start screaming about how we only care about "OUR Morals" and rights.
Pathetically reflective of your own short comings.
How dumb is it to claim that a woman who's caring for her child in the most responsible, thoughtful way is somehow just being an exhibitionist that wants attention - wants to expose herself in a window because she doesn't care about anybody's rights, but her own?
Utterly stupid.
If you want to discuss exhibitionists who only care about their rights, I'll meet you at the next Tebow forum.
Save your reflective, self-projection for people who can't decipher your bogus claims.
A woman's breast was meant to feed a child, not to offend you. Are you getting it yet?
How many times does it have to be repeated before it sinks in? I expect you'll be be on the next thread screaming, "What bout the children?" until you're red in the face. And in the next thread, you'll be shouting down anyone who doesn't call a Douglas Fir with twinkly lights on it, a Christmas Tree. Then, in the next thread, you'll be blathering about how Christianity is the only religion that should be recognized in this country. On the next, you'll be denying a muslim the right to wear a head covering. After that, you'll be ranting about ... Oh, nevermind.
It's like talking to a brick wall.
No, Susie.
It's YOU who doesn't care about anyone's rights but your own.
The ignorant masses are the ones who think a woman that breast feeds her child is being an exhibitionist.
The ignorant masses are the ones who can't separate their sexual conditioning from everyday activities. It's no wonder you elect Senators that through jackets over naked statues, lol.
I'd be loathe to find that anyone who thinks like you got a job as an EMT, nurse or doctor. You'd have to hire supervisors to make sure you don't grope every exposed body part you come across.
Grow up.
A Woman's breast was meant to feed a CHILD. Isn't that the way your "God" intended?
Have a nice day.
Susie....
...."I'd rather see a respectful service dog than a bunch of disrespectful bare-boobed broads"...
Let the records show that Susie gives a dog with twenty exposed breasts more rights than an innocent, human mother feeding her child.
I'd say that pretty much sums up conservative's ideals, eh? Why do we give them the right to vote?
Have a nice day, Susie.
Leave it to Susie to be even ignorant of the ignorant masses.
Have a nice day.
And if you can lay your baby down inside your cart and still breast feed. I really do not want to see that:)
Pretyy sure the woman who's breast feeding doesn't want morons like YOU, schoolyard, seeing it either. Their just placing undue faith in the public's ability to appreciate a mother caring for her young in the most touching and nourishing way - they just grossly overestimate the American public's maturity.
As for the "Moral" thing, what's less moral?
Momentary glimpses of mamaries during the act of breast feeding, or opting to deny your child the best nourishment in order to appease repressed, conditioned mental imps?
Have a nice day..
Wow Shut Yur Yap all this time I thought you were a female because you act just like a B!t(h and I don't in any way mean this to offend any women out there i just meant your individual attitude but I see from your last few post you are just a pedophile who wants a free look probably registered sex offender and by the way learn to speak English because the gibberish you use just makes you look like what you are a STUPID registered sex offender who can't spell and wants to use words you don't know the meaning too
Have A Nice Day. :)
If they wanna do that then they can share with us men. I'll bring a bowl of Apple Jacks or Cap'n Crunch .
I apologize for my typos..
Seems I shouldn't try to multi-task when posting on Newsvine. Especially when I don't have the time to proofread every post or when the likes of "Roscoe" is liiking for any petty victory.
That said, Roscoe, you have now just opened yourself up for grammatical scrutiny....
Here's your post:
.."Wow Shut Yur Yap all this time I thought you were a female because you act just like a B!t(h and I don't in any way mean this to offend any women out there i just meant your individual attitude but I see from your last few post you are just a pedophile who wants a free look probably registered sex offender and by the way learn to speak English because the gibberish you use just makes you look like what you are a STUPID registered sex offender who can't spell and wants to use words you don't know the meaning too"...
Need I say more?
I want to know when Newsvine's "Code of Honor" is going to kick in for this lovely example of an American?
As for the "b!t(h" comment, your little disclaimer about not wanting to offend women didn't work. You wouldn't have made it in the first place, if you had any such intentions.
Know what might have prevented you from turning out to be such a gem?
Your mom breast feeding you, instead of shoving a bottle of "foodstuffs" produced in a laboratory in your face, that's what.
Have a nice day.
Roscoe:
..."Wow(,) Shut Yer Yap(.) (A)ll this time(,) I thought you were a female because you act just like a B!t(h - (A)nd I don't in any way mean this to offend any women out there - (I) just meant your individual attitude(.) (B)ut(,) I see from your last few post(s)(,) you are just a pedophile who wants a free look (-) probably (a) registered sex offender(.) (A)nd(,)by the way(,) learn to speak English. (because) (T)he gibberish you use just makes you look like what you are (-) a STUPID(,) registered sex offender who can't spell and wants to use words you don't know the meaning to(o)"....
Whew! There. I fixed it, I think.
I guess if I defend a woman who is brest feeding her infant, I MUST be a registered sex offender, huh?
'Cause EVERYONE knows that the only purpose that a breast serves is to excite pedophiles and prevent Christians from getting into heaven, right?
Have a nice day, Roscoe.
Nice name, by the way.
In addition, Roscoe...
The issue is women breast feeding their kids....NOT exposed kid's breasts"
Either you haven't a clue what the word pedophile means, or you can't separate your own sexually deviant leanings from the image of a woman being nurturing to her child.
I say you should be removed from society for evaluation.
Have a nice day, "Roscoe."
How about if we carry cameras with us all the time and post photos on You Tube.
Hot Dam!!!! Awsum idea!!!! They wanna be "public"....ok....You Tube..here they come!!!
That sounds like a wonderful Idea!!!!! Bet we will see um soon!!!
That would seriously be the most boring YouTube channel in history. You want to watch 40 minutes of me sitting in a chair, with part of a baby's head, a blanket, and MAYBE the top part of my chest visible? On the other hand, if it'll keep you busy and no making stupid comments about things you obviously don't comprehend, have at it. Bring on the cameras.
Or.....how about you just let the mother feed her infant and go about your business?
Show them boobies girls, breastfeeding or not. No kids??? Show em out of support.....
Little boys, unable to suspend their sexual objectification of breasts....
Shameful.
Where's that idiot, Audry T. to complain about maturity levels, now? (Personal vengeance)
Grow up, idiots.
Have a nice day.
warlock:: Good idea!!!!!
I think we oughta get a lap dance with the boob show. LMAO.
I think we should video tape the morons being sent into a tizzy by the image of a woman breast feeding her infant instead.
Would get more hits on Youtube.
I can almost hear the baby who's being breastfed screaming, "Grow Up!" now.....
Have a nice day.
i agree! this just sounds like a bunch of exhibitionists throwing it in your face. it never works when you throw it in everyone's faces. feed your baby but have some class! any woman who blatantly pulls out their boob in a mall is plain wrong. and, i'm not meek at all--just saying!
It seems like most of these women are feeding discreetly, as in using a blanket (or "hooter hider" in the case of one woman) to cover up. They are protesting what they considered to be unfair treatment of a fellow breast-feeding mother. Breastfeeding isn't 'gross' or 'indecent,' it's a natural function that is necessary for a baby to get nutrition. The vast majority of women who breastfeed in public aren't 'whipping them out' to show off, they're providing their infants with food. It's natural, it's necessary, and if someone's first reaction to a baby and breast is 'sexual object', then they have a problem.
Accipiter:: The picture showed one woman breastfeeding her child. The back of the kid's head was showing-- meaning NO BLANKET. I gather by posts here that breastfeeding in public with no cover is the common way of doing it-- showing NO RESPECT for others. Of course, they want respect but they don't want to respect others.
I pity "my fellow 'merkins" who want to have moms wear a BreastFeeding Burqa to cover up their chest AND their baby.
And here I thought "my fellow 'merkins" despised those cultures that require the wearing of Burqas. Fundamentalist misfits. But you have been unfortunately programmed to believe that something natural is to be hidden, because you cannot deal with your own misplaced sexuality issues? The 'merkin BreastFeeding Burqa Brigade have woeful "issues" -- shame on you pervs. And I'm calling you out, boah.
I don't mind as long as you cover up! You may believe breastfeeding is a beautiful thing, but I think it is gross to do it in plain view of others around you.
So since you don't agree with something it shouldn't be allowed? Logic=Fail
SGLA A womens body is beautiful and wonderful to behold. Check the baby on the booby.....you'll love it. When and where is the next feedin?????
Respectfully turn your heads.
Titties !
i love how no-one can undermine this sound and logical post (LOL) or has opinions against it.
i think the only people who are against "Titties!" are gay men and and ladies who have too much (you ladies know what i mean and i know what im taling about)
Nope. It's only lesbians who are so upset about women breastfeeding in public. They're jealous because they won't ever get to breastfeed, period.
I'm uncomfortable reading some of these comments! I'm against disrespectful and masoginistic terms used in place of grown-up terms.
As far as being against t!^^ies (I refuse to write it out,) my preference is to see them in the appropriate setting.
Anyway, my comment on the article is this: Just because I don't want to see breast feeding in my local Target, doesn't make the practice wrong. I'll just be mature about it, blush, and look the other way.
I can assure you, gay men do not have a no problem with "Titties" they just don't find them that attractive and have no interest in them.
I'm very sick of this debate actually. The truth is there is nothing wrong with breastfeeding in public as long as you are using some tack. Yes, I read the article and the woman had picked a out of the way location and used a blanket to cover up her and the baby. Good for her, she was being tackful and should not have been called out. However, I've seen women who are not tackful at all. It is almost like they are just daring someone to say something to them. To those moms I say shame on you. Your baby deserves a quiet, loving, time when you breastfeed them. Not a rushed, pop it out, in a loud, crowded area experience. It is a love and bonding time between mom and child. Let's keep it that way.
mariamom: It's "tact," not "tack." And no, I'm not trying to be a smartass. That being said ..... agreed.
Just because the law allows it doesnt mean it is ok! Heard of a bathroom? Or maybe that car you have in the parking lot. Worry about something else.
Do you sit on the toilet and eat your lunch? Get some common sense about babies, nutrition, germs, public restrooms, etc. and try to stop dining on public hoppers.
So, "Brett-3148765" and "Luke the Great!", if you are asking for babies to eat in the restroom, are you going to eat in there as well?!? That is ridiculous! My guess is both of you are single, or no children in which you were involved with in the early stages of growth!
No woman should have to feel so ashamed to feed her baby that she has to hide in the bathroom!
I breastfed my children, being respectful to others. There are ways to be descreet, which most women are, in my opinion.
Grow up!
you want a see my boobs. no, i don't want a see yours.you choose to doit,deal with it.or stay home
changes and Jami: No, I don't want to eat in the bathroom. But I also don't eat in the aisles of a store. I eat at a restaurant or at home. I don't want to see you chowing down on a burger in the middle of a store. I find that more disgusting than a floppy breast in a baby's mouth.
If you don't want to see a woman breastfeeding her infant, just go into the dirty bathroom or dressing room until it's over.
Have a nice day.
If you want to breast feed your child, that's fine. It's your right, but please remember that there are other people present as well. Covering yourself is an option, but here's another: use a breast pump before you come to a store and have it in bottles(most plastic bottles sold in stores these days are free of BPA, so you can stop THAT argument right there) which would eliminate the whole issue to begin with. It's simple, pop the top on the bottle, give it to junior, and that's it!
Some babies don't care for bottles, but honestly as long as the woman keeps herself covered I don't see a problem, personally I am a breastfeeding mother and I carry a throw blanket to cover her up. Boobs are nice but not meant for public display.
speak for yourself lady lol as a young pubescent boy, breast feeding in public was where i got my first boner (atleast the whip your boob out with no blanket version of breastfeeding in public,also it helped that she was a milf) and that alone should give some of you no throw blanket ladies pause to think about how right it is to whip out tit and show it to everyone before the baby has at it.
AmericanSon, you've obviously never used a breast pump. It may seem easy to you, but for many women, it ends up being the reason why babies end up being bottle (formula) fed.
WOW!!!! You are an American son.
The use of a breast pump can be very convenient for some, but not always an option. I have had three kids and breast fed them all. Like others have stated, unless you never want to leave the house, you have to be prepared to nurse in public or pump ahead of time. I never felt comfortable nursing out in the open because my babies would kick the cover off and it made it difficult to stay covered up. I usually went in a dressing room or in my car to nurse, the car even felt overexposed to me. I would never have given my kids formula as food allergies run in my family. Pumping worked for my first two, but my third refused a bottle and would only nurse (found out later he had a medical condition that had him looking for constant comfort a bottle did not provide). There are just some times the options are limited and the mom, in order to take care of her child, may have to nurse around other people. Even being discreet things happen. Life can't be put on hold the first several months. On the other hand it is very easy to look the other way. Having a child from newborn until the time you can pacify with solid food can be an exhausting time in a mother's life. Showing sense and compassion for that moment when a mother is nursing in public is not very difficult. I am not saying those who are in your face about it are doing the right thing either, but remember, you never know what that mom has gone through that day already. Try walking a mile in their shoes before judging all nursing mothers by the same standard as the ones who dare you to say something.
So your comfort takes priority over anyone else's? It's your choice to have the kid. Your choice to take a baby shopping with you, or out to dinner or whatever. It's bad enough that the public has to listen to their screams and bawling without having to be subjected to something that not everyone may want to see. To bad if it's a little uncomfortable for you to fill a bottle, or it's an inconvenience to do so. You're just one person compared to the rest of the public that you may be imposing on.
American son.
Thanks for giving women the permission to breast feed their child.
They REALLY needed your permission.
Hve a nice day.
Why protest Target just because 3 or 4 moronic employees showed their stupidity? Target is not the culprit!
Target is a private business and they have the right to deny you from breastfeeding in their stores. Why all the big stink now...it never bothered your mother when you were groing up.
if they can deny yu service for no shirt or shoes they can damn well do it for breast feeding.
the law states that they cant stop you from breast feeding in public but they are well within their rights to not sell you their product while yur doing it and they also have the right to remove you from the store for any reason as long as they do it without causing you physical distress. IE: throwing you out on your rump
If they have the right to deny a woman from breastfeeding her baby in their stores, then they should just go ahead and ban all babies. Babies need to eat, much more often than an adult does. If a woman is breastfeeding (as is her natural right to do so), she can't simply tell the baby "wait until we're back in the car." The baby wants to eat NOW, and the mother needs to provide.
The amount of immaturity here is astounding. How can people be so perverted that they only see breasts as sexual objects or something disgusting? First and foremost, breasts are for feeding babies. Grow up, read a book on human biology, and stop watching so much TV.
WELL SAID!
Who in thier right mind would refuse service to a woman with her tits out??? Come into one of my business's with the boobs out and you get 10% discount........
I am appalled and disgusted at the level of immaturity and flat out ignorance on this subject. I am a nursing mother who chooses to nurse in my car while out, however, I have absolutely NO problem with a woman who is discreetly nursing her child in public, which is exactly what this woman was doing. Saying that women should "just stay home" or "nurse on the toilet" - you should be embarassed for those comments! I can only assume that you people never have a reason to leave the house when its inconvenient and that you also dine on the porcelain throne rather than porcelain plates. For those of you saying that Target has every right to ask this woman to stop due to the fact that it is considered "private property," learn to read - Target Corporate is as appalled as I am that this event took place and has come out in support of this woman's right to nurse her child while in their PRIVATE STORE! As far as the laws that protect these rights...you should be proud to live in a country that not only affords mothers the right to nurse their children in public but also affords you the right to say ignorant and insensitive things about it.
I think that Accipiter has the right idea....ban babies! They're noisy, they stink, and they think they're so damned cute! Let's keep them off airplanes, too.
Breastfeeding is a completely natural function ... as is defecating, urinating, picking your nose and copulating. None should be done in public with or without an audience.
IQ 168 is absolutely right. Think about it. Why breastfeed in public when you can't?
I suppose YOU never EAT in a restaurant or any other place where people can see you? Anyone with an IQ can understand the difference between excrement and food.
Babies aren't the only ones who get hungry. Next time I see someone breastfeeding in public, I'll ask her to save me some.
Your level of immaturity astounds me. Why don't you just walk by and let the woman feed her infant without harassing her? Really genius idea.... I know.
Not all of my post made it in for some reason. I was going to ask after what age should mommy put away the breastfeeding. I've heard of a few that go way beyond infant age. Would it be okay for that in public?
Highly unlikely, anyone claiming to have that high of an IQ would be able to differentiate between the expulsion of bodily waste and the act of acquiring nutrients, further anyone claiming to have an IQ that high would also know that an infant requires nourishment at a consistent rate.
Oh give me a break this is just about a bunch of feminists who want to cause problems and drama there is nothing wrong with using a bottle and breast milk can be pumped out and put in bottles so there is no need for this kind of indecent exposure. I mean acording to the law if a kid were to get into there parents porn vids and saw that its child abuse yet kids can see female anatomy in a store and its fine? Really so now we have all these women who are going to go to target and breast feed at the same time and its all for drama and making headlines. the only purpose it serves is the screw the consumer over people who want to go shopping and be able to move around the store. And newsflash on the law private property is differant than public. Ok so the law say women can breast feed in public public is on public property out in the open target is a private company and the property is privately owned so no the law does not apply to private property. are you saying if i told a women she cant stand in my yard or in my home and breastfeed that the laws says she can. no its my property private property. Of course we have ignorant people writing this story who dont know the differance between public and private.
another pile of crap reporting from the mainstream media, Only the best for msnbc the lefist nutcases im sure this story is appeasing to the same liberals who think we should all smoke pot and grow out our hair and be a bunch of immoral hippies without work living on the welfare system
antifeminist
I hate to tell you but not all babies take bottles. I had no problem pumping for my son, but if I was in the same house, he would not take the bottle from his father. I was the preferred food source. If I was with him in a store and he was hungry, he would scream if I offered him a bottle. The bottle was not an acceptable alternative. He also didn't take a pacifier and gave up the bottle at 6 months for a sippy cup at his childcare. I preferred not spending the first part of his life in my house with no where to go. I also didn't use a blanket, but dressed so you could not see my breasts when I was feeding him. I layered and used my shirt to cover up the top of my breast, the tank top to cover my stomach, and discreetly covered back up when he was finished. I tried a blanket, but he kicked it off a lot and it raised more attention to what I was doing than just feeding him. It was more embarrassing than helpful.
So, breast feeding is like defecating, urinating or copulating, now?
Great.
I'm so proud to be an American. Wow.
By the way, last time I checked, public bathrooms usually have multiple urinals right next to each other. Complete strangers stand in plain sight and whip out their wee wees right next to you. Not something I wanna see, but I realize that they have a biological necessity to perform - just like me - I don't whine and complain, I don't try to deny them the right to urinate, I don't act as if they are trying to take away my rights by peeing next to me. I keep my head respectfully turned forward or downward. I'm an adult. That's what we do.
I don't hear any of you morally upstanding people trying to prevent people from using public toilets, do I?
Nope.
If you've ever been in a Turnpike Plaza bathroom, you'll find the place filled with half kids, half adults. Most respecting the other's privacy by turning their heads and minding their own business.
All you Larry Craig types ought to be ashamed.
Everything today must be so crude and rude. If these women would quit whipping their boob out in public, it would not be a problem. Dignity is dead in the world, along with common courtesy.
JuneBug-73 According to your post - It would seem common sense is dead also.
Norman, you are right--it does seem like "common sense" isn't very "common" any more.
This entire debate has been absolutely amazing. I can't believe how ugly people are being to each other, saying appallingly rude things. The intolerance astonishes as well.
Whatever side one is on in this debate, there is no reason not to treat each other with respect as we write of our differing opinions!
No, common sense just isn't very common any more.
Last I heard, Target is not public property. Why are there only ugly ones that protest. I love boobs.
of course you do .let's see your parts . ilove the thought its ok to whip them out as long as a baby is attached.the choose to do this they can stay home an be a nurseing fool.
I support a woman's right to breast feed her child in public. It is something that is quite natural and has been a part of life since the world began. You go girls!
I have no idea whatsoever why this very polite comment expressing an opinion was "collapsed by the community." What on earth for?
The interview of the woman I saw on the news said she was sitting on the floor in the clothing department. I would look weird at any adult sitting on the floor in the middle of a store. I didn't get from her account of the story that she was in a corner or anywhere else. I would look at any adult, sitting on a floor in the middle of a store a little odd. I don't care if they were breastfeeding or talking on the phone, it's odd behavior! Sitting on a bench, walking around, whatever but I normally only expect to see small children sitting in the middle of Target while I'm shopping!
Good for them!
No one is making you look. You do NOT have a right, to not be offended. In fact, everyone has a right to offend you any time they like. As often as they like. So get used to it.
Do you look at your surroudings when you are out or do you walk with your eyes closed? And YES I do have the right to be offended.
Okay let me rephraze, you dont have the right to deny anyone from offending you.
As long as they dont do anything directly too you, or break any laws, or disturb the peace, theres nothing you can do about it. As it should be.
indecent exposure is disturbing the peace
You should be glad your not my child. I taught them to be respectful of others and it is wrong to offend others just because you can. To me breast feeding in public is no differant than allowing women to go topless. In our town they would not let a Hooters build here because they showed clevage, think what they would think of a woman pulling her breast out. My goodness show some respect to those around you and you will find others will show respect to you.
Wait a minute here....women do nothing but whine they're constantly offended...the little dears. Males can't tell a joke, have a pin-up in their locker or look too long at a female without offenses reaching the level of the guy being fired.
A saw a fat skank with tits exposed feeding a baby at the book store. She wasn't in the corner, she was basically shoving her nasty bags in everyone's face. I was offended and not a little bit disgusted....but then, guys don't get to be offended by women's behaviour.
Where I live women can go topless wherever they like. Same as men can. Restaurants, no shirt no service, etc. But the laws here, are the same for both genders. As it should be. So its not disturbing the peace where I live. And it shouldnt be in a free society. Leave your religion at home. Dont go out if you dont like what you might see. No one is making you go out. And something as natural as breastfeeding is always going to remain legal. Its as natural as it gets, women have been doing it forever.
Sexual harrassment at work is totally different. Its not illegal to tell sexist jokes anywhere else. Only at work.
So your saying it would also be ok to walk around with no pants just because no one is making you look?
Religion has nothing to do with this so leave your posts in your head so no one else has to suffer with them.
No pants is still considered illegal, isnt it. Atleast in N.America it is. However, if its determined that going naked is okay and legal, as breastfeeding has been, or going topless is where I live, then yeah, you should look away if it bothers you.
Well the fact that most of you complaining, are doing so because of your religious values, and the fact you feel the need to force those values on the rest of society, and the world in general.. Then its very relevant. Isnt it. You morals are not the same as everyone elses, and we all have a right to our own beliefs.
Freedom you are wrong. Most people are stating that they have no issues with women who attempt to be discreet while feeding their child (either by covering up or finding a quiet area). It has nothing to do with religious beliefs, but respecting others rights to the same public space. As a former breast feeder of two, I couldn't agree more. It's one thing to breastfeed, it's another to make a scene.
I agree this new generation will end up degrading a natural act and turning it into exobitionism.. (sp? )
I'm more worried about the mothers that CAN'T breast feed. There is a HUGE pressure on today's society to breast feed and "take care" of your children but there is NO publicity for the mothers that want to breast feed and can't. I NEVER produced milk for either one of my girls, only the colostrum for the first 24 hours. I was berated and told I was a horrible mother because I told the nurses that I didn't think my daughter was getting enough nurishment. I went through a horrible depression with my first daughter, thinking there was something wrong with me. With my second daughter, even after I told the nurses that I never produced milk, they waited until she had lost almost an entire pound (she had been taken by ceserean 3 weeks early so was already underweight) before they finally admitted I wasn't producing milk! We need to be a little more sensitive to those that want to be the "perfect" mother, but can't. Both of my girls are SUPER intelligent, well adjusted and both raised on formula!!
I'd hate to burst your bubble, Freedom, but I DO have the right to not be offended ..... as long as it's one of my rights that's being offended. If I remember my US Constitution correctly, that would be the ninth amendment. A person or persons cannot do something that violates MY rights, even if they would otherwise have that right.
Sorry Chris your wrong. The Ninth amendment doesn't grant you the right to not be offended. People CAN and will offend you whenever they please. The Ninth amendment was made as a guide to properly read the Constitution. Look it up. You can't sue someone for offending you, trust me you'd be laughed out of court!
Kasey Kahne where are you. This would have been the perfect day for you to reclaim yourself as person who was sensitive. Guess your "Handlers" would rather leave you as being the "Redneck Left Turn Man" instead. Well I guess it's better you stayed away after all, you think it's disgusting!
BLAHBLAHBALH! Who cares!
Nathan you are very insensative.
Nathan- I don't have boobies either.
Also, why would anybody want to feed their baby with their milk-boobies in public anyways? Get a room my gosh.
NATHAN AND SURVIVING LISFRANC
So the next time your hungry dont stop at a restraunt or the drive thru make sure you get a room, oh my gosh!!!! Baby are still human to and have the same rights as you.
Surviving:: A simple baby blanket would be cheaper and more portable.
Through the years, I have been subjected to women breast feeding in stores, restaurants, etc., and this makes me very uncomfortable. I don't want to hear a baby needs to be fed and this is natural. If a man pleasures himself in public while totally covered by a trench coat...couldn't this be considered a natural act? Everything is NOT ok!
Just some small people trying to exert their force as employees of a 'major corporation'.
If it offends even one other customer then it is disturbing the peace and reguardless of other laws the owners of the privately owned store can refuse service to her and ask her to leave the store. Did you not know any store can refuse service to anyone as long as it does not violate their civil rights. They can even make you leave because they don't like the way you look.
They can make you leave the store if you breast feed your child at the same time they can spend tons on side-by-side urinals...Precious logic.
All this in a society that's exceedingly homophobic and anti-Lesbian.
A ludicrous country we live in.
Have a nice day.