In the latest news that will make parents of teenage girls want to shoot their computers and/or become Amish, teen and tween girls are taking to YouTube to post "Am I ugly?" videos, asking the denizens of the Internet whether they are attractive. Because really, who better to reassure insecure young girls about their self-worth than anonymous Internet trolls? Yikes.
TODAY Moms contributor Dana Macario reported on this trend:
Dozens of tween and young teen girls have decided to poll the YouTube audience to find out how pretty or ugly Internet trolls think they are. The girls pose and flaunt, asking strangers to tell them if they're cute. While the girls post videos with headlines reading, "Am I ugly?," the main question for many viewers is whether these vulnerable girls should have such unrestricted Internet access. Please, check your kids' YouTube accounts.
Before you load the shotgun and take the laptop out back, experts say the real answer is to keep hammering home the message to kids that their worth is about who they are, not how they look. Teen therapist Arden Greenspan Goldberg advises TODAY that parents should tell their kids, "You are your personality. You are your talent. Even though they roll their eyes at you, they're always listening."
On the TODAY Moms Facebook page, many moms reacted with horror and dismay at the videos -- and said this is exactly why parents need to keep a very close eye on what kids do online.
"That's terrible, my daughter is only 7 and I hope that she never feels the need to do that," wrote Bobbie Jo Dawson. "I've always taught her that natural beauty is true beauty and tell her several times a day how beautiful and intelligent she is... I wish the parents of these girls would take some time and spend with them and let them know how truly wonderful and beautiful they are and that no strangers opinion will ever be worth more than their own self respect."
Helen Russo commented: "All I can say is, I hope my daughter never feels she has to do something like this, but that's also why I'll be monitoring her Internet use until it's legally out of my control... my house, my rules and there's no such thing as privacy when it comes to my kid's safety and well-being."
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this is news?
It's depressing is what it is. And, just for future reference, clebro, if you're looking for "hard news," the Today Show "Moms" section probably ain't the place to find it.
thanks for the tip, but even a second-grader with a semi-functioning brain stem could see that i said "news" and not "hard news." jackass.
It was on the MSNBC.com front page when I clicked, but I digress.
As sad as it is though, it is nothing new. Young girls have always been insecure about their looks and vulnerable to the opinions of others. Its not until they get well into their 20s that girls figure out what is really important. Sadly, some never do. The fake looking backstabby chicks at the office are this way.
It is sad that these young girls feel the need to do this. What is scary is that the internet trolls out there can be very nasty and cruel, which could have disastrous consequences. I certainly hope that the parents of these girls find out and talk to these girls about the fact that there is far more to their self worth than what some troll on the internet thinks of their looks. I would hate to see the next story being about young girls committing suicide or otherwise harming themselves because of what some vicious internet troll said about there looks.
Hahaha. Whatever. You have yourself a nice day, champ.
These are gorgeous little girls. Period. No one should tell them otherwise, and anyone who says they are not beautiful is a disgusing bully.
Parents of teenage girls should regulate their computer use. yes, I do have teenage girls and yes I do know who, what, where, and when they use the computer as it is in a common area of our home and it must be off by a certain time.
I really wish the word "tween" would go away. If you are under 13 you are a child, if you are 13+ you are a teenager...
Yeah,
I know I'm ugly. Don't need any YouTube trolls to tell me that! I have a perfectly functioning mirror.
If you're born with natural good looks, celebrate it and don't be ashamed. If you're not so lucky, well, that's life. Don't be ashamed, either.
I watch American Idol. What amazes me are the parents who dishonestly support their talentless children, instead of guiding them to their strengths.
False praise can be very harmful. The anonymity of the internet can properly align one's perspective of themself, when all they do is receive false praise from their parents. It can also be a rude awakening.
yes because everything is about these poor girls and their self-esteem
beauty is only skin deep...ugly is to the bone...
With the proliferation of being able to broadcast ones self, it is getting doubtful whether these are simply cries for help versus simple attention seeking behaviour i.e. trying to get others attention to view that particular video sort of thing in such a crowded narcissistic field.
If these kids were butt ugly they would not be asking that question about whether they are ugly or not imo.
Could it be that:
1. These kids have too much time on their hands and too much access to technology that instead of using it to further their education they use it for this sort of nonsense.
2. Parents are copping out by just giving their children 'things' as a bribe so that they do not have to actually spend time and talk/converse with their offspring.
Many do not do the hard stuff like parenting i.e. being their for their child, to listen, observe, teach them the rules of the road- ie. good manners, safe social interaction with others, making friends, education- present and higher education, chosing a profession , college etc and why.... Talking/discussing sexual mores, sexuality, pregnancy prevention, sexually transmitted disease prevention, becoming sexually active before being mature enough to deal with such a relationship and the consequences thereof, peer pressure, life choices etc. all those things that shows their offsprings that the parents are the parents and the child is the child, and thus they are not equals, contemporaries or friends.
3. Social media have its place but this sort of thing is getting out of hand. We have sexting, video sex, video porn etc all from the privacy of some kids or adults' bedroom or homeoffice. But hey they are facebooking with virtual friends looking for virtual validation, and supposedly a large virtual following.... Imagine one's like as a 'trend'.... but supposedly that is too is 'trending'. Tweeting themselves into virtual twits and twats, who think that that is living.....
4. Perhaps those who see these videos should refer these kids to go ask their parents that question or simply ignore these videos. But then by giving a written validation of referring the child to talk to their parents and others voting in agreement of such a referral could also end up feeding into the possible attention seeking behaviour, as there is oftentimes a tally of the amount of visitors viewing said photos etc.
5. On the other hand their parents may be too busy either working long hours to make ends meet, so buy these kids electronic toys convincing themselves that they are actually helping/caring for/ providing for their children and thus allaying their feeling of guilt about their lack of real interaction with their children.
This is like the latchkey kids of the mid 1980- mid 1990s during a similar tanking of the economy back then.
The buzz words back then was 'spending quality time' with one's children.. showing 'tough love' and because back then some folks had health care insurance with mental health coverage quite a few of these kids were admitted to private for profit institutions, and for those who did not have that sort of coverage were admitted to state facilities for juveniles with behaviour issues to 'modify their behaviour'.....Remember?
Just like now there were quite a few teen suicides, many runaways, joining of gangs for protection and belonging etc. Then kids were also diagnosed with ADHD etc... drugs were prescribed etc etc etc...
Of course it could be that some parents may be too busy 'entertaining' their own vacuuous friends, or trying to garner attention for themselves with their tweeting, texting, sexting, trending, gathering a following instead of encouraging and complementing their own offsprings... leaving their kids to seek out the attention they are not getting at home. Hmmm
Isn't it amazing that the more things change the more it stay the same? New technologies, new toys, same results...
Like used to be asked back then...'do you know where your kids are?' and 'do you know what they are doing?'
Peace....
No you are not ugly. The only people who are "Ugly" are people who must put someone else down, to prop themselves up. CEO (Christmas, Easter, and Other occasions) Christians are ugly, Most Republicans who claim to love Jesus, but then complain that everyone should fend for themselves, and not help those less fortunate, despite their religious preferences (Doesn't sound very Godly, too me) and bullies. Whether it is sexual orientation, body size or shaped, or physical and mental abusive people. If you fall into those categories, you are ugly!
Why? is there always at least one who reads the new and then asks " This is news?" You did read it on the page that is news, correct?
"Am I ugly?" No. "Do I want attention?" Yes. MSNBC's community might silence me for pointing out the obvious, but these girls obviously want comments like "Oh, of course you're not ugly! You're beautiful!"
Well here's news for you: If you are looking to boost your self-esteem or begging for attention, the Internet is not the place to do it. This is not grade school.
I don't want to ramble on and on about this topic but feel I need to comment. This is not a new trend. energizer.bunny.1237 is not that far off the mark as women of ANY age, have been seeking validation/attention of their value in some manner for a very long time. We need the attention and acknowledgement that we are pretty, desirable, intelligent and appealing.
My Daughter who's now in her mid-twenties fell into essentially the same trap. I don't remember the exact website or wording, and for that I apologize but there was one that was something like, "Would you hit this". When she showed it to me and told me she'd posted a picture of herself and then watched daily for the responses, it devastated me. I just could not understand why anyone would subject themselves to the results because no matter how many positive comments she received it was the negative comments she took in and owned. She was very depressed and she's not unattractive.
BZe1...you went into great detail with your post about what may cause such behavior, trying to find a reason but the bottom line is...good Parents, bad Parents aren't going to be the catalyst of this behavior. Our whole culture is constantly being bombarded with images of what "pretty" is and what makes us appealing or of value. My gender already is hardwired to compete with other women for attention, attention from Men and attention from other women. That is the underlying reason for this behavior and again...it's not new. I have been a very active involved Mom to all of my children and I could and have told both my Daughters how beautiful they are...how smart and sweet and, and, and. But I'm MOM...I'm not a man they want to attract and I'm not another woman they feel they need to best. Make sense?
I'm 47 years old now...it took me almost that long to accept MYSELF as is, inside and out and to not let my self worth be wrapped up in what others might think of me. I can't say I'm not flattered when complimented or bummed when I'm not complimented on a new hairdo or outfit, but it's momentary. I don't allow it to impact my own outlook about myself and that is what the potential problem is about the activities of these young women. They will focus on the negative (as so many do nowadays) and they'll take it in and let it impact who they feel they are. It's not new...but it's sad and unfortunately we're not going to make this go away by being more involved Parents or telling them to stop doing it. They're girls/women and will continue to seek validation and attention however they feel they can get it.
I rambled...sorry :)
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Period. Your outward looks only go so far and last only so long. You could be the best looking person in the world but, if you're mean,hateful and think you're better than everyone else, then it doesn't matter what you look like on the outside. You will be an ugly person and people will notice. Keep that in mind when you ask---- Am I pretty?
This is pretty sad news. I mean at a such young age....to question your appearance, and to rely on stangers, (and young kids who will tease you and mock you for their persoanl pleasure). Remember when you were 13 and everything was exxagerated....break ups felt like the end of the world! And in todays soceity, where tv shows and commercials...etc, make children think that they have to be perfect...or at least perfect in what the media depicts as perfect! I wont be surprised to hear of a child who kills themself because of being called ugly! I hope not! Gone are the days when kids would just go out and have fun....whether it be hang out at the mall, watch a movie, hang at a friends house, or whatever......Now it is online, (fake) social friends, and crammed up in a bedroom for hours on facebook. What a world!
Then you grow up and the media is no different! Biased MSM tries to do the same to adults....It is one crazy world! Good luck!
no link to da videos? ok im going to nice but honest. first of all why do looks matter? are you looking for $$? lol. does it matter your ugly. from this video above. most of them are ugly but none of them are super ugly. a couple of them are kind of not ugly but none of them are super hot. but again looks dont matter. 90% hot girls end up being you know what, on the streets hustling, getting violent boyfreinds and end up depressed. this is the honest part. they use thier attactiveness. is this what you want to do? wish you were hot so you can use ur attractiveness? many times it ruins ur life. just be yourselves, im a ugly dude and i dont care. i only care about being healthy and enjoying life. another advice is girls need to stop wearing makeup and looking like you know what. i like natural girls. not ones that cover themself up.
well enegizer bunny is a complete beyotch who doesn't understand how the internet has intergrated itself into youth culture and our value system.
girls have always looked for reinforcement and encouragement and validation from their peers. because the internet is now a major part of this generations lives, it's just another medium by which to seek these things. we should stop questioning how they're doing and ask why they're doing it, maybe if we lived in a world where women weren't simply valued for being a hot piece of a., then they wouldn't need to ask anybody.
ask why boys are not at the center of any of these debacles.. it's much more complicated than 'well, guys are great. and girls are just dumb and bad at everything' it's that girls are still objects to people. and men are actually valued for their humanity.
i feel sorry for girls growing up in a world where even their mentors are looking down upon them with spite and jealousy and allowing venom to poison every single interraction with them. what they need is compassion. not this garish disrespect.
As an outside observer I would say that 1/2 of them actualy think they are ugly... the other half not so much...Energizer is there for half right and half wrong...
Also being a teen I can see this from a unuiqe perspective. I have noticed that many of you say you need to encorage them, which is kindof true. You need to ask them qeustions about school. If they are being bullied, then encorage them. Encoraging for the sake of enchorageing makes them think they can succed without changing, which is bad.
I also noticed some poeple bashing cristianity for SOME of its number saying that you should make it on your own. I personally agree with that. There are millionares today that used to work in a mine, a factory, or even as a taxi driver. They made it on there own, everyone else can too, there is no drive anymore however. Now there is poeple who think they can make it because they 'deserve' it. That is not the case though. You must make it in this world with your own merits.
wow trust...your whole post was about putting others down...practice what you preach...that was one ugly post.
I never asked if I was pretty. I'm a realist, and call it like I see it. I am happy with my fat@ss, my 4 eyes, my "lovehandles" and my fu@k you attitude"!
This is just horrible for young girls to be posting such things.
Every person is beautiful if they develop their full potential.
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no. every person is not beautiful. and they don't have to be, either.
The problem here is, people will say "no, you are ugly" because they think its funny. Then upset tween/teens off themselves because they are hung up on what strangers think of them.
Sadly, there are probably fat middle aged perverted dudes looking at their videos and then trying to pick them up...
What a sad statement on what we teach our girls to value in themselves. What happened to being strong, and impowered, and gutsy, and smart???
What happened to deciding your own self worth, as opposed to basing it on outside feedback?
Sad.
If you want to boost your child's self-esteem then switch from superficially telling them how wonderful/beautiful/pretty they are to telling them specifics on what they do well or specific things about their looks that are beautiful. A girl will internalize it more if you tell her that her blue eyes or smile is pretty than if you just go yes dear your pretty. Same goes for boys. That's one reason why people respond so well to cheesy pick up lines. Even though we know they are cheesy that specific compliment points out a positive and boosts our core esteem. Same with telling someone how smart they are, make it specific and tell them what they are smart/do well in.
Like it or not most humans have unique features that are seen as imperfections by themselves or others. Blanket praise inflates esteem but it's more superficial so when another girl or boy points out something the child sees as an imperfection or insults them they have to reconcile that with but mommy and daddy think I'm so pretty. While the opinion of parents is important, the opinion of peers carries massive weight, which is why girls (and even adult men and women) ask peers to rate their photos.
Sarah -
Firstly, outside feedback is the only method we do have at gauging our worth in society. It's great to be told to develop our own sense of self-worth and everything, but the fact is we are social animals. Having somebody around you that tells you that you're pretty and smart and talented, well, they know you're just saying that because you love them. And they appreciate it, but it doesn't really count because of your bias.
We are social animals, and part of that is accepting that society gets to judge our worth based on certain aspects. I personally disagree with most of those aspects, but we are animals, and looks are an important part of our interactions with society; not just appearance, but gestures, non-verbal cues, etc. We modify our behavior based on the reactions of others, and that is what we call interaction. I appear differently to different people, based on how I act, what I say, and other things. I'm not going to come out and dress down my mother the same way I would somebody working for me who screwed up, for example.
For crying out loud, don't any of you remember what it was like to be a kid? The angst? The inability to express in words the melange of feelings and ideas going on in your head? The sensation of discovery of new things? The excitement, the horror, the social awkwardness, the bullies, the victims, the drama, the teachers, the students, the attempts at rigidity and the need to fight authority?
Granted, the internet is the LAST place that kids should be doing that kind of stuff (see Greater Internet @!$%#wad Theory for clarification). Close friends are better, generally. Some kids don't have many close friends, though, and turn to the internet.
My suggestion, put the kid's privacy settings to only allow their friends to see it, and no reposting. That way, when @!$%# goes down (and it will), it sticks to a small group, and the kid has a better chance of growing a thicker skin without resorting to suicide.
i wonder if any of these girls would date an ugly guy from their school. i say this because i sen this before. Back in high school there were girls who didn't feel that they were pretty enough but they wouldn't even talk to guys they found ugly. I mean all appearance wise, nothing with personality or whatever.
I'm not making a case for coddling children or blowing smoke up their behinds. I'm making a case for what society in general teaches females to value, and how we socialize them.
You won't ever see an adolescent boy online asking if people think he's handsome, will you?
Maybe boys have their own issues, but the article is about girls, and it sucks that we teach them to value their looks, and to value their looks through outside sources, no less.
that's because if a boy does that, he will get ridiculed.
my point still stands firm.
Sarah, we don't teach them this. It is as instinctual as breathing. Their genes know that men value them more based on their appearance than anything else. Plain and simple. And yes, boys are insecure about their appearance as well...it's just that they'll be mocked by their peers for seeking affirmation.
U. G. L. Y. You ain't got no alibi.....you ugly. Dad used to ask me if my face hurt? I always answered "no". He always replied, "Well it's killin' me!"
Hey Sarah,
Actually there have been websites around for years that did this for both boys and girls. I remember 10 years ago that Hot or Not was the popular one. Both genders would upload pictures to be judged and rated on a scale of 1 - 10. So this isn't new.
But what this really comes down to is one VERY important rule that parents need to teach their kids... The internet is full of a$$holes. No matter who you are, no matter what you look like, there is an a$$hole who will call you ugly, fat, wimpy, whatever. Going on the internet is like going up to your mortal enemy and asking their opinion of you. STAY AWAY.
That rule should be a requirement in any parenting manual.
As an entrepreneur the first thing I do when I receive a resume is check a persons linked-in and Facebook pages. If you have trashy, drunken, immature, insecure posts/pictures; I don't want you working for me.
I know many universities also troll facebook and do not want you attending their establishments either. These kids will end up working for fast food the rest of their lives. I don't understand why parents don't keep their teenagers off social networking sites or at least monitor them.
crazy! Don't complain to me when your kid ends up barely making a living.
US1776.
No, not everyone is beautiful. There are a lot of ugly people in the world. Now I am not really referring to just looks. People can be pretty but have a terrible personality that makes them a lot less attractive.
I've been told that I am good looking (I am a male btw), but in reality I quite ugly. Physically I am not that good looking (like 4.5 out of 10), plus I have such a lets just say less than good outlook on life and things in general have made me jaded and more of an ahole at times.
Now I have not watched any of these vids yet (I will tonight).
People constantly question themselves all the time. I'm 26 and I still question myself all the time. I did it a lot when I was a teenager and do this a lot as an adult.
I've been told I am handsome but I do not really believe that I am good looking.
Those girls should not be looking for validation from strangers. God makes everyone exactly the way they are for a purpose. Our value and worth comes from Him and not what others or our culture values de jour.
CoffeeParty,
I used to be like you (also a male)... questioned myself, thought I was ugly, blah blah blah. Then I heard the greatest quote of all time...
"When I get sad, I stop being sad and start being awesome instead. True Story."
It really is amazing what arrogance and a hint of narcissism will do for your outlook on life.
Actually UnitedStates1776, NO, not every person is beautiful. Also, just in case you were not aware, not every kid is a winner; everyone that plays doesn't get a trophy and (and I hope this doesn't offend your tender sensibilities) we are not all equal in all ways. Parents today coddle their kids by giving everyone on the "team" a trophy, celebrating every little thing like their kid just won an Olympic medal and in general, treating their precious gem like they can do no wrong. I have a news flash for you -- life isn't fair and we're not all beautiful. Some of us will be geniuses in our chosen field and some of us will dig ditches and hopefully the vast majority will fall someplace in the middle. Some will get breaks in life brought on by genetics and others will not. We all have gifts and it's up to the individual to ultimately find it within themselves to bring it to the forefront and make something of themselves.
There is a cause for this effect here people. The girls are asking a natural question since we do value pretty girls more than ugly ones. We say differently sometimes, but we really do not value ugly girls the same, nor do we think that personality triumphs over looks. So, these girls are right to be concerned and right to be sad, if they are ugly. The sad part is that it is not even their fault. It is ours for making such an environment that they grow up in. It twists both the ugly and the pretty into people they would not have to be if we did not pressure them so.
It is a shame, but what are we going to do about it? We cannot change society, but these girls are not directly affected by society, other than in the music and movies they see. It is the interactions with the many people they deal with that teaches them this, not a faceless nameless society. It is all our responsibilities to help them see that it is personality and other things that we value most.
Do not blame kids for learning the lessons that we teach them.
Sarah, I'm with you. I have a daughter and of course I tell her she's cute, but I also tell her she's smart, funny, creative, and caring. Those things are what makes her the great kid she is. And I tell my son the same thing.
Of course girls want to be "pretty" but going on Youtube is asking for a lot of trouble.
Society should not be shocked that out of hundreds of millions of people, some of them are insecure and childish. Especially if they are children.
And lets put the internet equivalent of a "loaded gun" within reach of all these kids, because surely a universally accessible service would be used appropriately by everyone in society.
Do the math people.
This is so sad. Mom and Dad aren't doing what they should be to help build this girl into a strong young woman. From the picture, she IS beautiful but she needs to hear it from the right people.
Very sad
If you have to ask you probably are. These girls do not suffer from anything but an abnormal desire to have others tell them they are beautiful. Just like the millions that take pictures of themselves and post them to Facebook just waiting for their "friends" to tell them they are beautiful. Sickening.
And this isn't something that is just teen girls - how is this different than Demi Moore, who starves herself to be thin, sending a half naked picture of herself over Twitter?
Where are the "parental controls" on these kids' computers...oh wait, they are probably using computers at school or their "smartphones", etc. to post this nonsense. Every parent should set controls that prohibit access to any of these "social" sites without the parental password that the parent changes daily.
No wonder we have all of this new electronic bullying that is now occurring. The youth of today have no understanding of what they are exposing themselves to with their "network" postings.
With most of them, other kids tell them they are ugly and every adult tells them they are beautiful. Where else can a kid get an HONEST answer concerning whether they are beautiful or ugly?
Where else can a kid get honest and useful advise on how to better themselves.
The main reason these girls post the videos is they are confused because everybody they talk to lies to them concerning their relative beauty.
yeah, you ugly,..go climb in a microwave...i mean really, this is a main story??? it's beginning to sound like a generation of poon tangers out there...
Technology is wonderful and/or horrible depending on who has it and how it is used. My daughter is 38, but if she were 8 or 14, I'm not sure I would permit her to use any technology she wanted, at least not without being monitored.
If you have to ask 'the internet', then yes, you are ugly. But, more important, you are really seriously stupid...............
And for telling somebody some stupid remark like that, you would probably look better if you pulled your pants down and walked backwards. IDIOT.
More than likely, it's mom and dad that have given the kid a complex to begin with.
Kallie, I am sure you have lost out on some extremely great talent. How a person lets of steam is no indicator of how well they work. Infact is more likely that you've hired some very secretive repressed people who will more likely blow up one day. If as a teen you never did anything remotely crazy, then I actually do feel sorry for you.
Parents can tell their kids how beautiful they are until the sun burns out. ( A lot of kids figure that is something you have to do because you are parents. I don't know how many times I've heard Parents don't count.) Many people probably even those who are now parents have felt the weight of wanting society to judge you. May it be, in school with popularity or worrying about the clothing you wear. Still, praising your kid is a very good thing for parents to keep doing. (Even though they say it doesn't matter it does as they are growing up.)
However self esteem is more the issue. You should make sure your child is doing something they are interested in and can have fun in. In other words kids shine best when they are doing something they feel they are good at. Which in turns boost their self-esteem.
I love the representative person of MSNBC: Sees a video of a girl asking, "Am I ugly?" and thinks "Oh, no self-esteem issue!"
Let me introduce you to the representative person of the Internet as a whole: Sees a video of a girl asking, "Am I ugly?" and thinks "Stop asking for attention here. It's not grade school."
Blame Hollywood, the media, and even schools to perpetuate a value system that helps selling movies, newspapers, magazines for entertainment purposes. It's true that 'beautiful people' have it easier in life, but beauty without talent is fairly useless. Unless you're modelling... and I hear the competition is fierce.
The news report said one of the comments called the child an "idiot" but what they showed was the name "idiot" was directed at another commentator, probably one who had insulted her.
Either way, the mother should realize this was a BAD idea. She shouldn't let her daughter do this bc 13 yr olds will dismiss all of the good comments and only focus on the comments of trolls.
One is only as pretty as one feels from the inside, and what other people think about you should never matter to you if you feel good about yourself within.
If you think you are pretty, then you are what you feel. No one else can make that judgement about you unless you want them to, and you shouldn't care much on what others think.
Beauty comes from within you.
Isn't this why fat guys post their junk on-line? If you can't see it, how you going to know what condition it's in. Much cheaper to just ask on-line than pay a doctor to tell you if you have a problem.
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I would just like to say that I have met women that are very good looking and beautiful on the outside but it was their attitude and personality on the inside that made them very very ugly.
Some of the most beautiful people I have met, who weren't so appealing to the eye, it was what's on the inside, their heart, their compassion for others, their attitude towards others that made them so attractive.
It's sad that girls are dejected and seek others to confirm their sex appeal. "Am I beautiful?", should not have to be uttered from someones mouth, male or female. something like this being asked ponders to question the social resposibilities of the parents or guardian of such children. granted, I understand that everyone can't keep a watchful eye on their child, but at least hang out with your child. Teach your child the rights and wrongs of life, what beauty should be and not whats on the television.
I read that many people here blame social media on this issue, and in a sense I do agree. Women are generally sexualized in near to everything you see nowadays. We subject girls and teens with this every year and its saddening, because many begin to believe thats the way it is. Many girls believe they should wear tiny skirts to school, or really tight clothes.
I was heading to my classes at a community college and I noticed a girl from an intermediate school(middle school) and she was wearing a short plaid clad skirt, followed with a small jean jacket with gothic leather boots. I thought to myself, why would any parent let their child walk around like that.
Even worse, once a semester local schools usually bring students from highschools/middle schools for talent shows and other career opportunities. When the children are leaving, their guidance councelors or teachers would escort the children to the bus. Unfortunately for me and my friends, we ran into a rude awakening.
One event, the college cafeteria was littered with students until the forementioned departure. This woman came into the lounge room and started joking with my friends, then me. We got along great and things started going extremely well. I asked her if she wanted to go get something to eat and she said sure. Upon exiting towards the lot, a man had charged at me and threatened to call the police. I was appauled and demanded why he would make a claim to call the police. The man said they were looking for this girl and that she was 16. I took one long look at this teen. She wore tight clothes, small shorts(lowrise I guess), makeup that made her look resonably older. She looked 23 to me, I'm sure I would have found out later, but I surely panicked and told the teacher to get her away from me. Sure I totally deserved that, and made sure never to talk to anyone around that time ever again, but that changed the way that I look for dates from that point on.
I see young girls wearing less clothes with each passing year, which makes me wonder how I'll behave should I have a daughter. I don't want my daughter to try to look pretty, I want her to be herself. I want my daughter to have fun and enjoy who she is, not to find joy in attempting to look beautiful. she will be beautiful, for she will be herself. Hopefully my parenting will help my children to get past the peer pressures and social stigmas to enjoy their life.
If you want to find out whether you're hot, posting such videos on Youtube is one of the worst ways to go about it. Some @!$%#'s bound to say you're ugly, just for kicks.
You see, if you don't happen to be pretty, there are usually ways to make yourself look better (without plastic surgery of course). Asking such questions on Youtube isn't likely to generate constructive comments, which are what you need.
Bottom line is that teens these days are doing incredibly stupid things.
Do you ladies find my man boobs attractive? Looking for some feedback on my beer belly
Let me put your minds at ease. Those girls that base themselves off their looks soon grow old, and develop crippling self esteem problems when the looks fade. There is no escaping grief in this life.
yes it's beyond sad that in 2012, there are ANY young girls who feel they amount to what they look like and that what they look like is up to someone else to judge. But "a few dozen" girls falling prey to this exercise in debasement does not a "trend" make ...let's not assume all young girls are this sadly in need of help with their insecurities.
Sarah -
I hear you on that.
There was a funny video making the rounds a few weeks ago about a young kid (3, I think) that had already figured out sexist marketing in a store and was throwing a fit about it. Everything for girls is pink, fluffy, soft, full of makeup, etc. Everything for boys is building, designing, strength-associated, mechanical, etc.
And we wonder why engineering is such a boy's club (it is. Period).
she belongs in the jailbail section of 4chan.
Is there a non-jailbait section of 4chan? That place is frightening.
4chan is delicious.
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If this is not evidence that we are going off the cliff I don't know what is. How pathetic this world has become. We are absolutely pathetic, and the parents of these kids are bringing up damaged young people. "know what your kids are doing?", that's laughable, today's parents mostly are worthless, and act like children themselves. We are toast long term.
There is much more horrible things children are doing with webcams.... if i was a parent i would not allow my child to own any kind of photogenic lense
"Ya toast!"
They should care less what their hundreds of 'friends' on facebook care. Be yourself and screw the rest.
that is a conclusion few people ever come to in life and no teenager ever has that kind of insight.
As a teenager with self esteem issues, I never would have come to this conclusion on my own at that age. I was bullied constantly, and I was very insecure about my body. I was thin, didn't have any weight issues, and was relatively attractive (if I do say so myself).
Thankfully, I had very supportive close friends and family. When I hit my late teens, I realized that my worth doesn't come from others, it comes from me. But I had to mature to figure that out. And thankfully, the social aspect of the internet at the time I was a teenager was AOL chatrooms. So it wasn't as rampant as it is now.
At my age now, I have the confidence to deal with internet jerks, because they're everywhere. I don't think I'd be able to handle that type of criticism with the mentality I had at 15 or 16 years old.
Really, because I came to that conclusion at 16. I didn't stop focusing on myself. I just knew I would not and could not be who I wanted to be at 15 or 16. So I started to make an effort to improve myself so I could be who I wanted to be in my twenties and thirties and stopped caring about what the other kids though about me.
For the majority of teenage/preteen girls it is all about looks and I mean the total package from the face to their feet. It also has to do with weight and height. I have a grown daughter and three granddaughters ranging from 17 down to 9. My oldest granddaughter (prior to the insane blowup of minors living on the Internet and most especially YouTube) knows she is pretty, but doesn't really care. She is more concerned about her mind, her spirit, her personality and how she interacts with others. The two youngest are already becoming jaded and it is frightening.
Most, if not all, parents know their children. They are aware when a child begins displaying dramatic changes in their attitudes and behaviors. Some of these behaviors develop slowly. Others, it seems, appear overnight.
If you have a daughter/granddaughter who doesn't like to share her life with you because she believes you just "will not get it", you must be extra diligent and even downright sneaky (if required) to find out what's up.
My daughter once told me she thought for the longest time that I didn't love her because I told her I loved her at every opportunity. Of course, some of this attitude came from her friends whose parents didn't tell them as often. So, telling them you love them all the time can be a two-edged sword.
Be open, be honest and whatever you do -- don't share too much of your own teenage years especially if you have behaviors you don't want her to emulate.
But, mostly, I would immediately check her computer in the morning and at night. Failing that, I would remove it.
beauty is in the eye of the beholder
beauty is only skin deep...ugly is to the bone...plain bob 2012...
It have to say, during my teen years I was so full of myself nothing could bring me down. Then again I am not a girl and they do go through different problems. However, I had a lot of older friends and I notice -nothing attract women more than confidence.
Girls know that attracting guys looks put you into the positive factor. I would say though there is something wonderous about a girl who can enjoy herself and her time.
One thing I was told when I was 10 by a teenage friend of mine. Beautiful is actually common the reason why people find a person beautiful is they can recognize many different people in that person's face. However ugly is a standout meaning you cannot recognize, or their is only a small group that you can identify with that face. Sometimes common is boring as all.... Find the beaufy in abstract and you might find life is more interesting. The advice puzzled me at the time because we were in art school together I don't know how many abstract painting I sat infront of tearing my hair out because I could find the beauty in them. Then one day I did.
Well, of course if they ask this way by saying, "Am I ugly", some mean person with the anonymity of the Internet with say, "Yes". What are the schools atnd parents and advertising teaching? From kindergarten up the children have a right to hear, "You are a child therefore you are beautiful just because you're you". Every child has a gift and is beautiful. Children lose their beauty as they stop smiling and laughing. That is all.
Not every child is gifted. Not every child is smart. And, not every child is beautiful. Some kids are rotten, snot-nosed, stupid, lying little pains in the butt.
Your brillance and wit are astounding, how have you managed without getting the crap beat out of you....oh wait, you don't leave your house and live in your Moms basement and eat Hotpoclkets and have no real alive friends, just names and pictures on the internet.....what a sad existence
Da Troof is a troll! Da Troof is a troll!
Couldn't have said it better myself Da Troof! And some people are just plain ugly and we all know there ain't no helping ugly.
It sounds like you are basically saying that Da Troof is "not beautiful"... thus proving his point that not every child is beautiful.
Sorry, had to point out the irony.
My mom says I'm cool!
"My mom says I'm cool!"
My mom says she had no children who survived childbirth. My brother and I are a bit confused as we are quite certain that w were born and are alive.
I am not a teen ager and I don't live in my parents' basement, but I like HotPockets.
What ever happened to that show Hot or Not?
It was canceled because it was stupid and degrading. The same reasons your account is about to be canceled. Idiot.
I wondered that too. I always worried about the people who took it seriously, as it was degrading. Beauty comes from the whole person. A still picture tells little. The person you should ask that question to is yourself. The social network is a terrible place to ask beauty opinions, but I understand the curiosity of kids. I hope they do not take the answers too seriously, but I strongly suspect they will. Be careful what you ask for......
Don't encourage the nit-wit.
They still have the website.
Hotornot and Ratemybody were two of the first things girls made me aware of back when I got back into the dating game - years ago. And they're still there. The lure of anonymous [i.e. "honest" -- don't make me laugh] feedback is always there. I think in the beginning it had the potential to be a real ego booster, but it was a novelty. Now its just trolling ground, a cesspool you don't want to jump into and the folks who're just out to hurt of belittle someone probably are more numerous than folks who think its fun. Haven't seen it in years, but only the very young wouldn't consider it lame, I'd guess.
you are the questions you state
I believe the correct phrase is "I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you"
"I know you are but what am I?"
Sometimes this place is like a time machine. I think I just revisited the 3rd grade.
Infinity...!
Infinity + 1
Infinity X Infinity!
Seriously I don't think any of those little girls could ever really be called "ugly" They're just kids, and kids in any shape or form are beautiful, not only in looks but in innocence, personality, curiosity, and genuine vulnerability. This world is ugly enough and unfortunately all of them will find that out from themselves far too soon in their budding lives. What ever happened to letting kids be kids? It's so sad that young girls think this is what they have to resort to in order to define themselves in that way. Talk to your children, especially your daughters and lift them up, praise them and encourage them. Always.
Look at what is shoved down these girls throats everyday! The thinner the better, designer this or that, the provocative shows on cable and the networks showing that the prettiest girls get the guys, etc. We are a nation of morans. Our television shows confirm this! Parents need to get and stay involved in their childrens lives and to help and support them to make the right choices.
Why only girls? Being the mother of a boy, I am sick and tired of all of these news sites saying everything only happens to girls!
I said especially girls not only girls
Because a lot of girls are insecure, neurotic idiots.
Girls tend to have a lot more insecurity about their bodies than boys do. I'm guessing your son never asks if this shirt makes him look fat, or if these pants make his butt look big.
Because this is how strippers are made.
Step 1) Lower self esteem/Daddy issues
Step 2) Love of money
"Because a lot of girls are insecure, neurotic idiots."
And they grow up to be insecure, neurotic women who need constant validation and trips to the beauty parlor, fur store, and jewelers. Women who are more high maintenance than a Ferrari need to be avoided.
It's obviously because you're mean! You Effin B!tch!
Honestly, I agree with you "mean girl." It is very sad that mostly this only gets reported if it is affecting women. Just the other day, I did see an article about anorexia in young males; but more often than not, any body image story is going to feature girls because it is more socially acceptable for them to externalize it. Anyone who says that guys aren't equally insecure needs to ask themselves just how much bodybuilding is actually helping those involved. All I saw when I was around bodybuilding was people that were so huge that they could not take care of themselves anymore (i.e. put their own pants on, or wipe after going to the bathroom because their muscles got in the way of their ability to reach correctly), that were basically doing it because they were addicted to feeling tougher and stronger than all of the other guys they were around. Body image problems are a horrible thing for both sexes, but with how much media there is telling people to look one way or another, it is sadly pretty much inescapable now.
You can tell your children, until you're blue in the face, how pretty they are. However, when they read all the hateful comments from posters regarding how another looks, what you say doesn't matter.
A real pretty person will be shown and the comments about that person are beyond rude and disgusting. If you're old they say hateful things about your lines; if you had plastic surgery to look better, they comment on how ugly you are post surgery. It will never change, especially for women, they are doomed no matter what.
there is a man out there that will find you beautiful. the same thing doesn't appeal to everyone, thank God. people used to rave about Fabio, but i thought he was ugly. people think angelina jolie is beautiful. i do not.
what are these girls thinking? i have randomly run across this on youtube, These girls dont have a clue that there are trolls just looking for someone to screw with regardless of looks. they wouldnt need a picture, any person who tells these girls they are ugly should be locked in jail for a month or two for destroying the life of a child who could grow up heathy happy and strong, or a crack whore looking for a pimp that tells her shes hot. these girls parents should have the common sense to clue these poor girls in, and then the parents should not allow it period.
Really? Their lives will be destroyed? They'll become crack whores? And these mean people should be locked in jail? Dramatic much??
This is the idiotic equivalent of dressing provocatively for validation, or doing something stupid because your friends were doing it. These videos are a foolish attempt to gain attention, and someone (hopefully a parent) should warn these girls about the dangers of their actions. But there are many schools out there already teaching about internet safety and we hear all kinds of stories of things gone wrong on the news. My guess is that these kids have heard some of the warnings and choose to act stupid anyway. Hopefully they'll learn from those mistakes. But I don't think it necessarily means that their parents have failed or that their lives will be ruined by their desperate acts of narcisissm.
Don't you remember how stupid you were when you were a teenager??
with all due respect fitbrmom, if you read my post a little closer i used the word could, as in could be destroyed. iv experienced alot in my life. and one of those experiences was knowing a young woman whos dreams of being a professional ballet dancer came true. she practiced ballet for many years, starting out at a very young age and worked her way up to the top. unfortunately there was this one moment throughout the years that there was this one woman, a ballet teacher, who told her she would never make it as a professional dancer, and that she was fat. it only took this one action by some snob, that destroyed her, by the time she made it to the top, she couldnt perform anymore because her anorexia had made her so sick that she couldnt stand up without help from someone, they had to hospitalize her and feed her through a tube at times to save her. thats all i know about her as i only knew her for a short time. and lost touch with here, but that is a short short summery of what i know. this kind of thing happens all the time. and i know alot of other girls that have issues due to things happening during their younger years, although nost had issues with ther fathers. but like i said earlier a chance. and to me that chance is too much to take. and god yes i remember how stupid i was as a teenager, lol thanks for reminding me.take care.
technology can be great for the right intention and use. in this case, nothing good could come out of it.
Slow news day?
These girl are just fishing for complements, and that's why they'll get trolled when they post stupid videos like this.
You're a teenage aren't you? Totally sound like my teens and their friends. So harsh!
It would be better to ask "If you said I wasn't ugly, would that be the truth?"
thats a pedophiles dream...please watch your children..
Not sure what else one would expect in a culture that defines a female's primary worth by her appearance.
I wish it didn't matter if a person is attractive or not. But the unfortunate truth in our deep-as-a-puddle society is that it does. Recall how Susan Boyle was greeted. Sarah Jessica Parker has been called horrible names in the media. An adult hopefully grows thicker skin as they grow in age and wisdom, so this kind of thing can hurt less. But pre-teens? In all seriousness, I was suicidal at that age because of vicious looks-ism.
This is the kind of nonsense that opens our children (especially young and impressionable girls) to the dark side of the internet. They'll have some pedophile telling them how beautiful they are--really building them up--only to encourage them to "run away" from their troubles - into their "caring" arms----right.
Parents need to get their kids OFF of these social sites--no exceptions! Social media should be treated like kids in bars. Not allowed. Once they become 21, hopefully parents have had enough time to train their kids on the dangers of the 'real world.'
My kids are all over 21 now, but when they were younger and yes, we had the internet since about 1992 (when AOL 1st came out) Our kid's internet use was strictly for school and research. It wasn't for games or "chatting" with people they didn't know. And they didn't have a cell phone either. We would constantly monitor them for their safety out of our love and concern--NOT CONTROL--(as kids accuse their parents of doing now). We were the ones that built their self esteems! We were the ones on the sidelines at soccer, basketball, swimming, etc., that were cheering them on, telling them how proud we were of them!
If parents would start behaving like parents SHOULD -- kids these days would be a lot safer and more secure in their own minds. They wouldn't be seeking a stranger's approval!
Well, we could all learn a thing or two from you--you know, since you're the perfect parent and all.
This is the idiotic equivalent of dressing provocatively for validation, or doing something stupid because your friends were doing it. And I'm guessing even YOUR precious angels stumbled like this occasionally. These videos are a foolish attempt to gain attention, and someone (hopefully a parent) should warn these girls about the dangers of their actions. But there are many schools out there already teaching about internet safety and we hear all kinds of stories of things gone wrong on the news. My guess is that these kids have heard some of the warnings and choose to act stupid anyway. Hopefully they'll learn from those mistakes. But I don't think it necessarily means that their parents have failed or that their lives will be ruined by their desperate acts of narcisissm.
Don't you remember how stupid you were when you were a teenager??
Glad my parents wasn't all up my bussiness like you were in your kids. You probably shortened there lives greatly by all the stress you caused from constant surveilance.
WOW! 1 response from someone who's probably a 'teen mom' that still has envy issues and another from just a 'wigger' teen. ('up in my buSSiness'--one 'S' by the way dipstick)
You go 'kids.' You always know what's best!
Someone please tell this young girl "The lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, the pride of life is of the world, not God".
Don't give into this secular world which "lusts after the flesh and lusts after the eyes"; they're deceivers, don't let them get you down, they're wolves in sheeps clothing trying to make you feel unworthy. They lie don't believe them, they're nothing but a bunch of "intellectual barbarians".
You expect a pre-teen to understand that?
They only need to understand that they are what we call a "Butterface". "Everything about her is really cute; butter face."
THIS IS SO WORRY SOME I HAVE 3 GRAND DAUGHTERS AGE 9 AND 10 WHO ARE ON THE INTERNET AND IT IS SO SCARY TO SEE THESE YOUNG BEAUTIFUL YOUNG GIRLS ASKING THIS SORT OF QUESTION i noticed most of these girls are in a bedroom un seen by their parents of what they are doing or writing about on the internet, that is the first thing that needs to change PARENTS please for god sakes do not set up the computer in there room put it in the area of you home where you can see what they are doing it is your responsabilty as the Parent to protect your child, Please
I just find this whole thing so sad.....I mean I was a funny looking kid and spent enough time hearing about it without the millions of jerks on the Internet. Besides the whole true beauty thing, what I wish I could tell these kids if they are at an awkward age is, "You WILL grow out of it! Honest...you really really will." I mean no I am not gracing Playboy at the moment, but things did get better for me. I wish I had believed that at that age. :)
But you know, some people just never will and that's ok too. Most of us really are average, which is why there's such a term.
Laffs, that's just the thing! I absolutely AM averge and totally comfortable with that! But avaerge would've been a stone cold blessing when I was 13. I didnt honestly mean that we all blossom into models more that, often at least, skin clears, sometimes the texture of hair gets better or you learn to manage it better. Sometimes if the teen is mid-puberty, her figure evens out. I just meant that way too many girls assume that they will never get ANy level of control over how they look and this is rarely the case. :)
The sooner the girls learn this, the better: no matter how pretty or ugly you are, there will be a percentage of people who find you pretty and a percentage of people who will find you homely. BUT what matter is finding that one man who is kind and who thinks you are pretty. Sure in an ideal world, we all shouldn't care what others think about us but I do care what my loves one think about me.
So what matters is finding the one man who is kind and thinks you are pretty...? How superficial is that?!?! Sounds like you need to grow up and seek some mental help there, doll.....
Idiot
Well said, Julie.
"what matter is finding that one man who is kind and who thinks you are pretty."
That is what he does for you. What do you provide him?
Gee, oh superficial dude.....they will see someone who does not dwell on the outside of a person, but the inside person. Did you just get dropped off of a manure truck???
Julie, if you think this is how to live life, you'll be unhappy every single day of your own life. This is not what matters in the real world. It's superficial and fishing for approval rather than searching for the strength that lies inside.
That way madness lies...and anorexia and bulimia and body dysphoria and many other problems. Never open that Pandora's Box, you are opening the gates of Hell. A girl might as well lie down on the internet and invite everyone to use her face for a doormat. It will happen.
A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. They're nice to have around and decorative, but what a woman needs is to be her own person first.
Eh, let's face it, it is nice when we get compliments from people on our physical attributes. I am not going to turn down compliments - whether they are based on my personality or my looks. Second, I am a firm believer that physical attractiveness is very closely tied with personality, meaning if a person has a horrible personality, it will definitely hurt her looks and vice versa.
Bottomline, it matters to me that my husband thinks and finds me physically attractive. But oddly enough, I am happy and not psychologically scarred...lol. However, if a random stranger thinks I am ugly, I don't give a rats azz 'cause he/she is not paying my bills.
Seriously? Come on! That is just looking for a reason to feel sorry for yourself. Most people online are going to be deliberately cruel. That is the opposite of what I would have done as a teen! Don't ask, don't tell!
Honestly, if you let your children, teen, tween, or younger, go on the internet without any guidance whatsoever, then you are an irresponsible parent who is just asking for the worst to happen to your child. For God's sakes, what don't you be caring parents and be responsible for your children. These kids that are referenced in this article have bad parents. Enough said!
Is this ridiculous or what??? Now kids are asking a machine if they are ugly or not??? Come on world! Wake up!! Where are the parents for these kids? Your going to allow the "Internet" of all places to establish how your child thinks of themselves???? Give me a break! Beauty is MORE then SKIN DEEP! Come on people..parents...wake up! Take 'responsibilty' and control over what your child see's....has parenting gone down the tubes??? You could have someone out there telling your child they are the ugliest person in the world...but what is even more scarry is the fact you could have some "sicko" out there telling your child how beautiful and wonderful your child is and then the next then you know some "sicko" has got your child. Let's face it...it's a known fact out there that you have all kinds of sick people out there....PROTECT YOUR KIDS! Take back your AUTHORITY AS A PARENT! (Whether they like it or not...that's why your called the "PARENT" and they are called the "KID" or "CHILD"!)
Underage girls (or boys) who feel the need to seek validation about their looks from total strangers on the internet are too at risk to be allowed to go online without direct parental supervision, period. Such behaviour shows a lack in self-esteem and maturity. They should also be immediately put into counseling to assess and treat any issues related to self-esteem, bullying, depression and thoughts of suicide.
When that child is 17 it is not considered appropriate to monitor all internet activity. If you are a control freak, well, so am I. But I recognize my limitations and I am doing my best to work within my legal limitations. You clearly have a younger child, so go for it. Blue Coat K9 is a great FREE parental control device.
Please check it out. After my 13 yr old stole my credit card to buy "VIRTUAL CLOTHES, DINNER, VACATIONS" for her avatars on IMVU I learned a BIG lesson. It cost me, after bank and paypal discounts 1000. Not fun.
Never let your child on the internet without looking over their shoulder or a GOOD parental control program.
Yeah, yeah, I know...not MY kid...LOL. I thought that, too.
Totally agreed. I was very surprised that the show never spent much time on what PARENTS are doing to allow this to happen!
but in your case your child wasnt in danger.......in your case your thieving child was the danger...............no one preyed on your child....your child obviously wasnt taught simple values like dont steal from their parents.......the reason you state for watching over their shoulder while on line wasnt to protect them from predators.... rather to assure your kid hadnt robbed you of your credit card..... your example doesnt apply here.............what cost you is the fact that your child was a thief..... by your own words
it is completely normal for a human being to ask those questions...the bad thing the thing that realy gets to me is that people are that evil to respond with remarks like that........... grow up america